6.13.0.3418 - Playback Control Overlay (Auto-Hide) Issues

As you know, the playback control overlay now auto-hides (again) after usage, which I actually don’t like, but I know most users are in favor of this behavior, so that’s all well and good.

I’m having a few minor issues with the new auto-hide behavior on my 2017 Sony Android TVs (X900E/X800E). When you initially start playback, pressing the center button on the remote pops up the control overlay and it auto-hides after pausing/skipping/etc, but afterward, pressing the center button repeats the last-used operation without showing the control overlay. This sort of makes sense when skipping, but it’s really annoying and counterintuitive when you want to change the operation.

Example, I want to rewind to a certain location in a program and then pause. Inevitably, I skip back a few times, and while I wait for it to buffer, the overlay will auto-hide. I can press the center button a few more times to continue skipping back, but now I want to pause. I either have to look at the remote to find the dedicated pause button or press the up button twice, which seems to trigger an additional skip operation before ultimately showing the overlay again, at which point I have to move over to the pause button and select it. I feel that the center button should restore the overlay without triggering an operation and set the selection to the last used operation instead. That way, pressing the center button would restore the overlay, and if I wanted to keep skipping, I could just continue pressing the center button, or I could move over to the operation that I want.

Bonus points: for timing out the last used button selection after 15 seconds or so and reverting the selected operation button to the default (play/pause).

Any feedback on this from other beta users?

Yep, can be annoying…fast forward, then want to change the subtitle but can’t get overlay back since the remote button defaults fo the forward action instead of showing the OSD. I’m doing stop and restart video as workaround which is not very nice…

@avdvorst said:
Yep, can be annoying…fast forward, then want to change the subtitle but can’t get overlay back since the remote button defaults fo the forward action instead of showing the OSD. I’m doing stop and restart video as workaround which is not very nice…

Try pressing the up arrow twice. It seems to trigger the last operation one more time, but it does restore the overlay again for me. This has to be a bug; I would be shocked if it’s by design… Thought maybe it was only me, so thanks for the confirmation.

@avdvorst,

Single up arrow press restores the OSD in the latest beta. Significantly more manageable… Thanks!

IMO, from a cursory glance of the Google docs on the subject, pressing the SELECT button during playback while no OSD is visible should never perform simply a “last used action” - it might pop the OSD or perform the default (center) action, but should never perform FFW/REW.

Timeline manipulation in Plex right now is annoying because the app will hang up decoding and that will interrupt quick button presses. And holding down LEFT or RIGHT produces immeasurable/unpredictable seeking. I’d like to be able to display the OSD, press UP to select the timeline and then move the timeline around in jumps that are of a different duration than the default FWD/REW skips (10s/30s). Maybe 1m 2m or 5m.

@TVPlexHD said:
IMO, from a cursory glance of the Google docs on the subject, pressing the SELECT button during playback while no OSD is visible should never perform simply a “last used action” - it might pop the OSD or perform the default (center) action, but should never perform FFW/REW.

Cannot agree with you enough. An ideal implementation of this in my opinion would be that pressing the select/center button would only restore the OSD, but it would be nice if the “last used action” was selected by default for a short window of time. This way, the user could continue rewinding or fast-forwarding if the OSD was previously auto-hidden.

Regarding the state of FFW/REW, I understand they’re looking at porting the vastly superior scrubbing implementation with preview from the Roku to Android, IIRC.