You do realize how the world actually works correct? I like Plex, I have been using it since almost it’s inception but anyone that simply shrugs their shoulders and accepts whatever a company decides to dish out is a fool.
Plex is good, it suits my needs but if I lose access–to the point I can’t even manage my server whatsoever locally–whenever it cannot speak to the outside world, well then that is a major issue for me and enough for me to tell Plex to go pound sand and for me to shout from the rooftops to anyone that will listen not to waste their time in a company that doesn’t give a ■■■■ about their userbase.
Plex does not have a monopoly on the market here–far from it.
I also see how plex works. Feel free to browse the feature request section for all the influence that does.
Noone is saying that plex has a monopoly, I’m only saying (the obvious) they are going to do whatever is in the best interest of plex.
Whether or not that aligns with what you or I want, is for the most part, irrelevant.
In any case, if you (or anyone else) think you can do a better job, please go @ https://jellyfin.org/ and start contributing code, for the benefit of everyone.
Actually, that is where you are 100% Completely Wrong!! That is the only thing that matters–what you, I and everyone else wants. If Plex doesn’t deliver that to our satisfaction, then there is no more Plex–it really is that simple.
I, nor anyone else, needs to contribute anything. It’s not our responsibility to better Plex to suit our needs–It’s Plex’s responsibility to deliver a product to meet our needs in a way we deem useful.
If Plex ceases to do that, there are other applications that will. The general public owes absolutely 0, nothing, nadda to Plex or it’s owners. The company owes absolutely everything to us, the general public. It’s just another piece of software we decide to spend money on–we can just as easily take our dollars elsewhere–along with our friends, family, coworkers and social media followers.
Suddenly Plex is just an afterthought of yesterday.
Seriously?? Why would we be SOL? How do you draw that conclusion? We would all just simply move on. We aren’t behoven to Plex. The consumers drive the demand, the company does not drive the consumer–even though they all try–and, in the end, fail miserably and bankrupt.
If plex decided to say fu to us (as you put it) and close up shop, that would be their loss–not ours. We would all just move onto another software that suits our needs. Are you seriously trying to say otherwise now?
Plex is good but it’s not the end of the world if I have to find a replacement for it. That kind of thinking is just insane, no offense.
Sounds like it would be 0.00000000000001% loss (or less) for you.
Which does not mean that it will be 99.99999% loss for me either.
I don’t even know why we are arguing, other than it seems you think plex owes you/us everything, when that is simply not reality.
With zero users, plex could stil have their own money to work on it, or even work on it for free for themselves.
Neither emby or jellyfin, or any other similar product, requires anyone else other than their own devs.
If you create your own media server solution, and I give you $1, does that make YOU beholden to ME?
or vice versa?
If I create the next generation plex thats better than plex, and I let you use it because you gave me $1, does that mean I have to do anything/everything that you say?
Am I required to continue to work on it, even if I no longer want to? Just because you want me to ?
Maybe I’ll win the lotto after releasing my plex killer app, and then I go live on my own evil villain volcano island, never to be seen or heard from again.
I do admire your devotion but at the end of the day, it’s a piece of code dude. There are several other pieces of code that perform similar tasks. It’s not the end of the world if it goes away.
That’s not just Plex, that’s any consumer product. And yes they do owe us, they take our money and in return they need to provide a product that suits my needs. If they don’t I move on. That’s consumerism bud, that’s the way it works.
If they decide to say “too bad, we’re doing it this way and we won’t listen to our customers” then no, they won’t have any money left because they won’t have any customers.
At the end of the day, Plex is not a focal point in my life. It really matters not to me whether they are here today and gone tomorrow. It would be a pain in the ass for me if they suddenly disappeared but seriously, after what, maybe 30 minutes, I would have another software in place that does the exact same thing.
Plex does not consume the large portion of my life that it seems to does in yours.
I have more important things to worry about like friends, family, etc than to worry about a commercial entity that doesn’t give 2 ■■■■■ about me or even know who I am.
At the end of the day Plex is extremely expendable to me. Too much aggravation and they will be to everyone I know as well.
Is it even necessary to state that its not OK that I could not access my own Plex Media server and its local content, from my own LAN, with my own access devices, because some service on AWS was busted.
Even less acceptable that no clear explanation or error message is displayed. Instead it claims that MY Media Server was unreachable. The one that is working perfectly.
“No soup for you” says the client. Why am I paying for a Plex Pass so that Plex can take away capabilities and nibble away at my freedom to operate my stuff the way I want to.
Restarted Plex, traceroutes, pings, eventually eventually with tcpdumps managed to figure out that https://plex.tv/… API calls were returning no data. EVENTUALLY found the status page to say there was a failure. Casual update with broken code slap bang in the middle of prime time viewing for Europe and Africa.
No clear explanations are shown on the clients. Couldn’t even access the setup/admin of my Plex Media Server on its own web interface since apparenly even that depends on this remote authentication service.
Meanwhile in other news on another thread we have adult movies served up as suggestions to kids who want to watch Toy Story.
Oh dear how is it going so wrong for Plex?
I can still log into my Chromebook - the definitive thin client device - without an Internet connection. Come on Plex, get this sorted out.
I’m okay with the use of data from various sources. I’m not okay with the system failing when those sources aren’t working. When I was programming, there was a notion of “degrading gracefully.” Plex does not do that, but it should. The external data is nice, but it is not necessary. Plex should be designed to continue to work, even if with reduced functionality.
I had the same problem with the server being unreachable after the Plex outage was resolved but I only needed to restart my synology nas to get my plex server to be reachable.
