It isn’t necessary to modify Title or Title Sort to get Plex to ignore articles; it ignores articles by default when sorting. (And you can customize which articles are ignored, if you want.)
To your question - I have used Title Sort in the past for a few reasons. For instance, movies that begin with a numeral and I want them sorted by number-word, or vice-versa. Or I wanted “¡Three Amigos!” to be sorted as “Three Amigos”.
I’m not sure if I understand the behavior you’re describing with collections. I’m wondering if the field was locked in some places, and couldn’t be updated when you modified the collection? But I don’t think that would cause what you’re seeing.
no, they were matched. i am very meticulous about my library. i’ve had it for 4-5 years now.
i’ve made these kinds of edits in the past (ie. sort and collection)
i feel like their may be a bug here, but i suppose since i didn’t think to take any screen shots before this all went sideways and since you can’t reproduce it we’ll never know (until someone else has it happen to them and again didn’t take any screen shots of before because who does that?).
that is a good point about the lock. they may not have been … i normally don’t touch the lock. unless i come across something i want to edit and it happens to be engaged.
i think we are getting sidetracked by the whole sort functionality. sort does what i want and i know how to use it to my goals. i was just bringing to light that immediately after i finished my sort edits i noticed that my collection had a bunch of errors in them now. maybe they weren’t related. that’s why i contacted support.
I feel like I used to get some really bad collection suggestions from the old agent, ugly stuff like that. Or maybe they were coming out of file metadata or something? I wouldn’t expect the current agent to do anything like that, though.
ok, some more information… while changing sort i also changed a bunch of movies to have a hyphen in them ("-"). So, ‘The Matrix Reloaded’ became ‘Matrix, The-Reloaded’.
Maybe the hyphen did something? because i do see a correlation with movies that had their collection break were the ones with hyphens.
Locked the collection tag on some of those movies.
Unlocked the collection tag on others.
Changed the Sort Title and Title tags on the collection. Forward and backward and up and down.
Whether locked or not, the tag was changed on the movies consistently. I couldn’t make it “split” or go crazy. Considering the database design, that makes total sense. I dunno.
There was something weird about Collections in PMS right after the new agent was released, and collection changes wouldn’t always be saved. But I haven’t had any problems since the fixed version was pushed out. What version are you on?
nothing happens except the Title of that movie has a hyphen in it now as expected. If i sort the collection itself by Alpha rather than the default release date, it goes to the end as expected. Nothing changes regarding the existing collection tag which I have not edited.
Agreed. I made a couple collections with hyphens and titles and spaces and commas and put some movies in and scrambled things around. Can’t duplicate.
I do see one thing that could be confusing, but it’s not related to hyphens.
You can create a new collection by tagging a movie. But if you type a comma, Plex finishes the current tag and assumes you want to add a second tag. So you can’t create a new collection “Collection, Name of the” with a comma in the Title that way.
You can rename a collection to add a comma by editing the collection Title afterwards. But you still can’t add it to a movie by typing “Collection, Name of the” in the Tag editing field.
If you try to type “Collection, Name of the” in the Tag editing field, it’s easy to accidentally create two new collections: “Collection” and “Name of the”.
