@johnm_ColaSC said:
@wiz561 Try:
Plex Live TV & DVR scroll to the bottom for video.
Plex YouTube
Lon.TV YouTube discussing DVR when it was released
Thanks for the links. It’s kind of what I expected…
My biggest thing is how you tune in a channel. I like to turn on Nick Jr and walk away from the TV while my kids sit there and stare at the screen. Can you do this with Plex and not have to mess with the remote once the show you were watching is over?
@wiz561 said:
I wouldn’t have to unconfigure myth, but I would hate to fiddle with something for a few hours and figure out it’s not what I’m looking for.
Plex will never ever run as reliably as Myth.
For me moving from Myth to Plex was a huge step backwards. I’m stuck now and miss Myth, but I’m lacking the time (and I’m to lazy) to set it up again from scratch.
Look like some one found a way to get HD-PVR 2 and Colossus supported under MythTV
I was wondering when they finally implement the “Grid”, will we be able to switch between the current style and the “Grid”, My feelings are the Grid is great for casual viewing and whats on now , channel surfing etc, but the current guide i adore as its so easy to find what i want to record…regardless of channel and time, it would be a shame to all be forced to use a “Grid” as i don’t really want one now if I’m honest.
The plan was to have both available.
@lambiepie said:
I was wondering when they finally implement the “Grid”, will we be able to switch between the current style and the “Grid”, My feelings are the Grid is great for casual viewing and whats on now , channel surfing etc, but the current guide i adore as its so easy to find what i want to record…regardless of channel and time, it would be a shame to all be forced to use a “Grid” as i don’t really want one now if I’m honest.
I’m petty sure both will be there
@lambiepie said:
I was wondering when they finally implement the “Grid”, will we be able to switch between the current style and the “Grid”, My feelings are the Grid is great for casual viewing and whats on now , channel surfing etc, but the current guide i adore as its so easy to find what i want to record…regardless of channel and time, it would be a shame to all be forced to use a “Grid” as i don’t really want one now if I’m honest.
I’ve said something similar. While I want the grid view I wouldn’t want to see the current method removed. So some conformity with respect to the grid view is good but still let Plex be Plex.
Having said that, I still believe Plex could have implemented a supplemental comprehensive user friendly guide system without using the triditional grid view. For example, Plex could have had a vertical channel list of all channels on the left and to the right of that a vertical list of what is on the selected channel through time. Two independent scrolling lists rather then a spreadsheet style grid.
@Octavean said:
Having said that, I still believe Plex could have implemented a supplemental comprehensive user friendly guide system without using the triditional grid view. For example, Plex could have had a vertical channel list of all channels on the left and to the right of that a vertical list of what is on the selected channel through time. Two independent scrolling lists rather then a spreadsheet style grid.
They better not I and min other here traditional grid view end of story
When I hopped on board with Sling a while back, they didn’t have a grid style guide. I found their presentation of shows odd, and unfamiliar, as I’d only ever known the grid style. I joined the voices that were begging for one to be added.
Oddly enough, when it initially arrived, I tried to use it… but found that I end up using their “on now” presentation a lot more. I do use the grid every once in a while, but only when I’m looking out in advance for a show. When I sit down to watch something, the “on now” is way easier to use.
I find that I don’t even really care what station I’m actually tuning… and that is interesting in itself to wrap your head around.
@shspvr said:
@Octavean said:
Having said that, I still believe Plex could have implemented a supplemental comprehensive user friendly guide system without using the triditional grid view. For example, Plex could have had a vertical channel list of all channels on the left and to the right of that a vertical list of what is on the selected channel through time. Two independent scrolling lists rather then a spreadsheet style grid.They better not I and min other here traditional grid view end of story
At this point, yeah, it’s grid view or bust.
However, I was referring to the reported reasons of why Plex didn’t initially use a grid view (ie patent). Other companies have come up with alternative implementation that the typical grid view user would have been comfortable with.
To be clear, I’m not bashing the current Plex DVR implementation but there are some glaring issues. Such as:
Client side Plex guides always seem to start at the lowest channel number. Rather then from where you last left off. In other words, there is no institutional memory.
Leaving off the channel you are currently tuned to from the guide list is somewhat disorienting especially if no channel numbers are used.
There is no way to simply invoke Live TV. So for example, with Microsoft Media Center there was a “Live TV” menu option as well as a “Live TV” button on the remote. Once selected it would start Live TV from the last channel tuned (not the lowest channel number as a default ).
At least there is the promise of improvement which is great (as long as it doesn’t remain a promise).
@Octavean said:
At this point, yeah, it’s grid view or bust.However, I was referring to the reported reasons of why Plex didn’t initially use a grid view (ie patent). Other companies have come up with alternative implementation that the typical grid view user would have been comfortable with.
You said you refer to alternative grid view but from I seen of years believe me nothing works, The DirecTV have been bitching about Cinema and OnDemand channel picture grid view.
I don’t mine Plex’s the What On Now and 1 hour Ahead View, and etc that in poster view that fine
To be clear, I’m not bashing the current Plex DVR implementation but there are some glaring issues. Such as:
Client side Plex guides always seem to start at the lowest channel number. Rather then from where you last left off. In other words, there is no institutional memory.
For me in tell they get grid view I don’t used as I have other alternative
Leaving off the channel you are currently tuned to from the guide list is somewhat disorienting especially if no channel numbers are used.
I think I know what refer to I agree
There is no way to simply invoke Live TV. So for example, with Microsoft Media Center there was a “Live TV” menu option as well as a “Live TV” button on the remote. Once selected it would start Live TV from the last channel tuned (not the lowest channel number as a default ).
At least there is the promise of improvement which is great (as long as it doesn’t remain a promise).
Yup that true but I very rarely ever watch LiveTV
@AmazingRando24 said:
When I hopped on board with Sling a while back, they didn’t have a grid style guide. I found their presentation of shows odd, and unfamiliar, as I’d only ever known the grid style. I joined the voices that were begging for one to be added.Oddly enough, when it initially arrived, I tried to use it… but found that I end up using their “on now” presentation a lot more. I do use the grid every once in a while, but only when I’m looking out in advance for a show. When I sit down to watch something, the “on now” is way easier to use.
I find that I don’t even really care what station I’m actually tuning… and that is interesting in itself to wrap your head around.
That the whole point looking out in advance for a show we remember time and dates but not names LoL
And there other reason why grid view is so important I like show and movie to be mark as watched in the tv guide that I know that done watch them which really useful with movie if I can’t remember if I watched it or not
There are basics that people expect to see in a DVR one of which is the grid view. However, there are simple niceties such as a one touch back button that will let you go quickly between two channels when watching Live TV (ie Last Channel).
I typically don’t watch much Live TV either but the current navigation in Plex for Live TV makes it a bit Unpleasant at times.
Yes I miss this as well. I like to bounce between CNN and Fox News to see the drastic difference in coverage at times. 
If it could open a timeline on both channels even better, especially during football season. That would be a great way to flip back and forth between two games while essentially missing ZERO of the game.
Exactly,…
I do the same thing with CNN and Fox News too but I toss in some MSNBC too.
With Microsoft Media Center Live TV you only had up to a ~30min buffer which was flushed when you changed channels. However, if you were recording two shows the buffer was the full length of the given progress of the recordings and the buffer remained resident throughout a channel change. So, for example, if you were recording two football games at the same time while channel surfing you could switch between games with a full buffer. Thus allowing you to scrub through either game easily.
With Plex Live TV switching between channels is much more of an impediment. If you’re on channel 650 (CNN-HD for me) and want to switch to channel 653 (Fox News HD) invoking the guide navigation starts you off at channel 001. Thus one would have to scroll through ~653 channels (with no channel number label) just to switch channels with a magnitude difference of “3”,…3 channels. That is a lot of scrolling.
IIRC, plex didn’t always do that either.
@johnm_ColaSC said:
Program Guide, Switch from Discover to Shows, Movies, News, or Sports. Then switch from All to Channel, and select channel. It does not provide a list of everything on channel, only items matching the selection made for Shows, Movies, etc.
Thanks! I never notice that. It helps.
I would love to have the grid though one day.
I used to do the same with SageTV as well. I still haven’t switched to Plex for DVR/Live TV purposes besides heavy testing. I previously had Emby setup for Live TV and DVR and still use this.
Emby has a last channel icon right on the OSD so it makes switching back and forth rather easy. That and the mini OSD (customization) makes it easy to use for sporting events as well.
@darcilicious said:
@timeslip1974 said:
If its copyrighted how come every other implimentation - Kodi,Emby etc all use it ? not to mention this article…Netflix nukes Rovi’s “we own TV guide” patents | Ars Technica
Show me how any of those patents discussed cover the guide/grid format? (Which, btw, isn’t even applicable to Netflix service).
I am pretty sure there have been many lawsuits about guide presentation but as far as I know they have all lost - meaning no infringement. That being said putting a guide that opens the door for an expensive lawsuit, even one that would be eventually won, may be an issue.
It launches today! See this: https://forums.plex.tv/discussion/298470/grid-view-update-for-dvr-program-guide#latest
@kinoCharlino said:
It launches today! See this: https://forums.plex.tv/discussion/298470/grid-view-update-for-dvr-program-guide#latest
About Time LoL
I hope you all will add the option to custom the columns and rows
