I want a definitive solution to naming singles in Plex

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I’ve been reading everything I can about organizing music files in Plex. I’ve been doing this for 2 years now and haven’t found a good solution that handles my singles. Here’s an example I found today.

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This isn’t the only one either.

I thought singles were supposed to go into a [standalone recordings]/ folder, but then I noticed some other singles were put into their own albums as track 01 via Picard.

I’ve also saved some files without album information only to see those loose files under the artist name.

I wanna pick one method and use that method for everything:

  1. Album named the same as the song, and the single is track 01.
  2. [standalone recordings]/ directory (not working consistently though).
  3. Loose files in the artist root.

Which does Plex want?

I’ve found that Option 1 works best. Name the album same as the single, stick that folder in the Artist’s folder.

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Not in Plex.
In fact, there are no standalone recordings in Plex. Each track belongs into a release.

Singles are “releases”.
Albums are “releases”.
EPs are “releases”.

i.e. singles should be treated exactly the same as albums.
With an AlbumArtist tagged that has identical content for each track on that single release.
With a separate folder which holds all the tracks on that single. Even if there is only one track in total.
i.e. version 1) of your options above.

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Is this as simple as moving it to the directory with its name or do I have to also change the ID3 data?

That totally depends on what is currently in the meta tags.
And also whether you have “Prefer local metatags” enabled or not.

An example for 2 singles and an EP:

which will give you

If a release is not recognized as “single”/“EP” etc. you can embed the releasetype meta tag to override.

In MusicBrainz use the tagger from the “single” section.

To create this folder structure.

Capture_2

To get this outcome.

How’d you setup Picard to do that?

I tried manually editing the ID3 tags, and it found only one, but that’s progress!:

Editing the tags after the items has been already added to Plex will sometimes not change anything. Cue the Plex Dance (you can leave out step 4 with music content)

Plex only supports one AlbumArtist per release. So these releases are either all getting combined under Christina Aguilera, or (worse) all albums by Christina Aguilera will be shown as “Christina Aguilera featuring [soandso]”.
Decide on the main single artist for a given release. Then move the album to the appropriate artist folder and embed only this one name as AlbumArtist metatag.

How’d you setup Picard to do that?

I don’t think I’m doing anything special. I thought that was just the way it worked.

For Megaman2 (to make sure I got the “single”) I would look up “Minibosses” on MusicBrainz.org. Click on “Megaman II” Under the “Single” release.

Click the green “Tagger” button.

Which puts it in the right hand side of MusicBrainz Picard. Then drag the Megaman 2 file from the left side to the right side and click save.

So these releases are either all getting combined under Christina Aguilera,

This is correct (see screen shot in previous post). I have no doubt what you’re saying is accurate.

I laid out the steps above for what I do for singles. I like the outcome. To each their own.

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Interesting. That’s a different way from how I’ve been doing it this whole time :+1:. I’ve been using the built-in search.

In terms of where these go, I’m actually in a spot with Moosebutter. I got a bunch of their singles, and the artist names are all different, but the album artist, as it were, would be moosebutter.

I’ve seen the albumartist tag, but I didn’t know what it was. Is that required for songs to be grouped into the correct albums for that artist?

Absolutely. It is very important in Plex.
Even more so, if you enable “Prefer local metatags”. Which is almost a must if you e.g. want to have several versions of the same album in your library.
If this tag is absent from your files, you are relying completely on Plex’s ability to find the correct album on Musicbrainz. Which most of the time works just fine, but when it doesn’t it’s nerve-wrecking. So my recommendation is to always insert it.

You’ll want to observe these rules:

  • all tracks on a given album must have identical content in the AlbumArtist tag. You can fill the regular Artist tag of each individual track with different names though, to cater for collaborations etc.
  • all albums which have the same AlbumArtist can be grouped into the same Artist folder in your media storage. You absolutely want to avoid having albums with different AlbumArtists to be stored in the same folder.

If you don’t stick to the above, results in Plex can be unpredictable and errors difficult to correct.

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Thanks Otto! That gives me something to work with going forward. Now if only I had some way of auto-naming stuff without relying on MusicBrainz such as VGMdb and freedb.org and other similar ones.

I’m wondering if local metatags is actually better than having Plex look stuff up anyway.

What’s your take?

While I do look up my music on MB, I still have “prefer local meta tags” activated.
This allows me to have several versions of the same album. And also override album artist assignments. For instance I have all Frank Zappa bands merged under his name. Splitting between “Frank Zappa” and “Mothers of Invention” just doesn’t make sense to me and gets in the way all the time. Yet, Musicbrainz insist they are separate.

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I had the same with a couple artists recently that were associated.

I realized that Album Artist is a way to group artists and “Artist” is the way you list who worked on the song. It could be multiple singers or groups.

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