I see a red warning in Plex saying “Library upgrade required”, but can’t find any information why, what this is all about, what it will do or change.
Please explain to me exactly:
I just went ahead and did and and NOTHING happened…just the notification that I must do this went away…
However…It asks me if I wanted to refresh all metadata now and I said NO…
Then I went through a few tv series and refreshed metadata to watch what happened and it was fine… It did change some posters… I noticed it was much faster as far as that goes…
I was mainly concerned if when I refreshed if it would remember if I had a certain series set for airdate order or DVD order… and it seemed to keep what I had selected for that series… in the past there have been a few that were in the wrong order but changing airdate/dvd fixed it… and I didn’t notice that refreshing metadata after the upgrade changed this at all…
Then this item will technically not be converted, which will be an issue if you want to use the newer Plex features which all rely on the newer agents.
It will also be an issue if you add additional episodes to that series: these will not get merged into the existing series.
Generally, users who did stick to the recommended file naming and folder structure will notice much less issues.
Users who did a lot of “Fix Match” and series-by-series assignment of agents will have more effort ahead of them.
It’s trying to set the Episode Ordering accordingly. But that will only work if the orignal Plex agents were used.
If previously 3rd-party agents were used, the title will be treated more like a brand new addition to the library, with default settings.
Side effect of the new agent: after refreshing the metadata, you will be able to select all alternative orderings on TheTVDB.com for a series.
I think it would be better if this “library upgrade required” would be an option for PLEX users, either to invoke it or not, user’s choice. I’m never if favor of “doing something” without full documentation on what it will do or not do, what will be the benefit (if any), and what would be the fallout if you do nothing. My PLEX media server running on a WDC PR4100 is running fine, thank you very much! Unless someone from the PLEX developers describes exactly what this “library upgrade required” will do or won’t do, and even the slightest hint that content will be corrupted is good enough reason for me to ignore whoever it was to program something like this into a good product without backing it up with detailed information related to this red light issue. More documentation is much better for the user than no documentation at all.
I agree, I am hesitant to do this “forced” upgrade to use the new shiny toy when everything I have is working fine and FINALLY after so so so much manual fixing, is almost accurate. I have so many shows that put episodes in the wrong order or screwed up two parter episodes, etc and I would have to go through and manually fix these things one show or episode at a time. Same with movies and my personal collections and poster art. If I update this library and all my custom work resets but I also gain nothing “new” from it, then why would I do this? Plex giving the option to not refresh current metadata is a nice checkbox to have, but I don’t like that it says “…until the next update” meaning there’s still a chance the server will refresh all that metadata and reset my work. I just don’t see the reason to red alert this thing if it’s actually just to get more people to use the new fancy agent. Thankfully they haven’t removed the old agent, and I’ll give them props for that, but I’m worried they will auto update these settings soon and force it, but this time I won’t have control and it’ll just refresh everything.
For now I’m putting it off, has anyone seen a forced upgrade date or anything though? Has the warning said “this will automatically change in January” or something like that?
From the Announcements Forum:
I’d say the countdown has started. They are staging it by starting with the Shield server and then rolling it out to the rest.
I’d try setting up duplicate libraries with the new scanners and see what happens. Play with the duplicate library as you can also delete it without messing up your real libraries. Read the Support Articles on naming and organization as these have tightened up under the new agents. Do all this BEFORE it’s forced.
The biggest mistake some people seem to make on the ‘upgrade’ is saying yes and then denying the Refresh Metadata. Doesn’t seem like that should be possible to deny if it’s part of the upgrade.
I’ll say that for me the new agents addition of source id’s in the folder/filename has been miraculous. No more "Fix Match"ing. The edition tags are nice. I also forgot how much faster the new agents are.
Good luck,
Chris
Ill also state that the “New” Plex scanner is not new… its been around for a couple years now. With regards to metadata issues, pick either the TVDB or tmdb and make sure everything matches 100% and you wont have issues. I also recommend to include the tvdb id in the show folder name or the IMDB id in the file name. With those two options Plex can crash and I can start over with 100% database loss and not worry. Yeah some posters may not be the preferred version but everything else populates correctly.
Here’s what I’m concerned with… I have my UHD and SD content in separate libraries for TV and movies. I used a different agent for each UHD and SD stuff because (as I was told years ago) the Plex agent would share the metadata for any particular movies, even across libraries. Caused some odd behavior, like both copies of the movie showing up in the “continue watching” list, with the same restart point. At least using a different agent made them unique in that point.
I created test libraries for each, and that behavior still exists even to this date. I wish Plex would account for the different libraries making the two titles distinct. I’ve resisted the call to change for a long time, but looks like I’m going to get forced into accepting it.
-Alan
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