Live TV Recommendations?

Server Version#: 1.18.9.2571
Player Version#: AppleTV / Chrome on PCs
Tuner Make/Model: HDHomeRun Extend (Also have CONNECT available)
Guide/Lineup name: Unsure
Using XMLTV?: No
Channel number/Name: All
Content Source: HD Homerun Extend

Symptom: Playback is choppy, pixelated and delayed at times.

Looking for some recommendations, or if I should not plan on this at all.

I went with the NUC7PJYH platform based on some other feedback to try to get some hardware transcoding. I had a different server that TV playback didn’t work well (AMD Ryzen 2700x/Proxmox/Cheap old video card - not passed into VM, Ubuntu 18.04).

Ok, back to the NUC7PJYH.

HW is NUC7PJYH with 8 GB RAM on a single stick (could this be an issue??). Ubuntu 18.04 Desktop installed on the NUC, which can be a server off in the corner. I went with the desktop flavor to make sure video drivers get loaded up. All remove devices connect over hardwired 1 Gbps LAN connections with Cisco switch (verified virtually no errors <10 per interface) are on the ports.

Ideally I would store my media on a QNAP TS-251+. I have tried both NAS and local storage. I also have tried a RAMDISK for transcoding storage.

Maybe I should just pony up and get a good solid system with a modern Intel processor. But looking to see what thoughts are. Should I try Ubuntu 16.04 instead? Server flavor instead?

What is the processor in the NUC? My server is about 3 years old now and runs an Intel® Core™ i5-7400 CPU @ 3.00GHz. I have a Hauppauge PCIe WinTV-quadHD tuner connected to a powered antenna. I get good reception and OTA viewing and recording.

I’m not sure having a beefier system would solve the problem (Though it’s always nice to have)
I’m running a Synology DS918+ (Intel Celeron J3455) with a HD HomeRun Quatro. I direct play Live TV to my Apple TV 4K with no issues.

Do you have the enhanced player enabled on the ATV?

Posting some logs could help identify the issue.

It could be a weak signal or the problem with the driver “/usr/lib/plexmediaserver/lib/dri/iHD_drv_video.so” that needs to be removed till they get it working.

RAM drives can cause other problems with Live TV especially since you only have 8 GB of ram.

I’ll gladly take the options.

I did have the enhanced player turned on. Turning it off and I get a little better playback but still pixelated.

Removing the RAMDISK and just using the SSD for the transcoding directory there is still pixelation. I will gather some logs here shortly (and I’ll also take a closer look at them).

@jwrober thanks for that. Generally reception is good as well. The processor is
Intel® Pentium® Silver J5005 Processor (4M Cache, up to 2.80 GHz). Base rate is at 1.5 GHz.

When watching live TV it jumps around a little bit, from 800 MHz to somewhere about 2 GHz.

Try deleting the following file (back it up elsewhere first) and then restarting PMS:

/usr/lib/plexmediaserver/lib/dri/iHD_drv_video.so

There was a known issue several months back where using the newer iHD dri driver could cause the issues you describe; falling back to the older i965 driver seemed to correct it. I thought this had been corrected in newer releases, but it may not have been.

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Thank you, that has things in a very good state with it. I appreciate the insight!!!

Do you know if I need to do anything as a reminder to the devs of taking a look into the driver?

No problem, glad it helped.

Unfortunately no. As far as I know the underlying cause had to do with the new driver from Intel themselves, not anything Plex was doing (other than defaulting to using it). I didn’t follow the issue very closely, but there were at least a few threads about it.

I thought this bullet-point from 1.18.7.2415 was intended to address it, but it appears not in at least some cases:

  • (Transcoder) Hardware encoding on older Intel processors could produce very low-quality output in some cases. (#10863)

Just for clarity, the enhanced player on the Apple TV is what would allow the stream to Direct Play. So I would suggest turning it back on unless there are other issues caused by it.

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i experienced almost the same issue with this hardware, but i found the problem only started with running server version 1.18 or above. Any 1.17 version works fine still.

I am still running 1.17.0.1841 for this very reason. that has the i965_drv_video.so Im going to back that driver up and upgrade to 1.19 soon and see!

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