New Plex Media Server TV show/series scanner and agent preview

Don’t think I saw it mentioned in any of the posts so just going to ask.
Will the new agent implement the change that the new movie agent has regarding external subtitles and and naming them with sdh or cc (i.e., filename.eng.sdh.srt) and having the track title show as English SDH (SRT External)? My guess is that it will be included in this, just wanted to get a confirmation as I’m looking forward to having that implemented.

Thanks,
Shark2k

Pretty sure it does (or at least will do).

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Whatever source is now being used for certain shows/seasons/episodes… I’ve run into some oddities.

For Game of Thrones season 8, all my episodes show no episode names and the following text as summary: “No information about Season 8 episodes have been released, other then that there are only 6 episodes in that season.”

Other than that I’ve only run into some of the topics mentioned before by others that are supposed to be addressed (I I understood correctly):

  • various orders from various sources
  • picking up “any” language if no translation for the requested language is available

With the addition of season names and summaries… it’d be nice if we can have a summary view for seasons (probably more for the Plex Web team).

I get the same issue but easy to solve by adding the year to the folder name, i.e. America's Got Talent The Champions (2019) - this fixed it for me. I’ll talk to the somebody to see if we can get that to match better without the year. Currently this show doesn’t even exist on TMDB.

IMDB: The Alienist (TV Series 2018–2020) - IMDb We use them for translations and both titles for American and British English are listed as The Alienist: Angel of Darkness

In the next update this shouldn’t happen anymore, it will either all match all seasons to the wrong show or all to the right one. I’m not sure if that’s a good of bad thing :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:

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Yes. Uses the same code as movies.

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Looks like a data issue. I’ve reported it.

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One more finding :wink:
If you set a library/show to hide the seasons of single-season shows, the local extras of that season will not show. Admittedly… that’s an easy fix on the user end… just thought it’s worth to notice and maybe review in some future update.

Edit:
Just noticed that Plex actually recognizes local extras with categories usually only available for music library extras (e.g. -video → Music Video, -concert etc.). Just starting to re-tag some of those music videos included with some shows and movies.

Wish you’ve told me last week that renaming folder is enough :sweat_smile:. Spent three days renaming my whole collections, with all of its side effects to my main library, especially since tvdb agent is still in PITA mode.

Anyway, about the agent itself, I think the matcher is really great, but the data still have a few weirdness.

Worst offender I’ve found:

  • Salaryman Kintaro, anime, listed as 2001 in both tvdb & tmdb, but 1999 in this agent.
  • Salaryman Kintaro, live-action drama, listed as 1999 in both tvdb & tmdb, but 2002 in this agent.
    So with year added, I actually got worst result here.

then there are a few show listed multiple times, with different result:

  • Runaways (2017) / Marvel’s Runaways (2018)
  • Cloak & Dagger (2018) / Marvel’s Cloak & Dagger (2018)
  • Good Omens (2019) / Good Omens (2018)
  • H2: The Days with you / H2: Kimi to Itahibi (listed twice) / Kimi to Itahibi
  • The Man Who Can’t Get Married (listed twice)
  • Spiritual Teacher, Kyoko Odagiri / Reinôryokusha Odagiri Kyôko no uso
  • Suzuki Sensei / Suzuki sensei (yes, only different casing)
  • Tada’s Do-It-All House / Mahoro ekimae bangaichi

I upgraded my library with the new BETA plex tv series scanner and now I can’t see my previous play history (before the upgrade) on show level anymore :/, but I can still see my previous play history on season and episode level.
But all the new episodes I watched since upgrading the library do show u in the play history

Please read the disclaimer in the first post above.

Thanks, I found an old bug here that affects this when you’re switching agents on TV and music libraries. I’ll make sure a fix gets into the public beta :+1:

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Can you advise, what the impact of the new agent is in regards to plex automatically (PRE) downloading subtitles without user intervention (ie via opensubtitles/sub-zero agents)?

it seems unlikely that user initiated subtitles on demand is a solution that ‘subtitles on by default’ users are going to be happy with, and losing this feature alone is going to be major family/significant other impacting.

As both of these are legacy agents/plugins they do not work in the new agent world and don’t work with the new movie or TV agents.

I do have an open issue to support automatic subtitles for the new agents but this work just hasn’t been prioritized yet.

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You are going to be able to select which ordering you want to use. Hoping to have a new build next week for testing this.

I think you’ll be able to choose. So if you consider TVDB as correct then you can use that as the order when matched.

That’s what drzoidberg refers to when he’s talking about ordering…
Episodes are sorted differently within a season (or even across seasons) – could be because the episodes aired differently from how they were released on DVD or because they’re listed in a different sequence on different repositories.

Re/ ordering:
There’s been an extensive discussion about those differences in the posts above addressing exactly such cases… let’s wait for the next preview built to see how Plex is going to address it.

Re/ nonsense/bad data
How is Plex supposed to know a description was good and is now bad?
I take it that’s something we need to take up to the online databases

Yes, for now you’re going to have to have your files named to match either the TMDB or TVDB way of ordering. You’ll be able to change this at the show level too.

For now we’re not the ones that are going to determine if the data is “bad” or not unless it’s something egregious of course (we have the ability to make fine adjustments on our end). We want people to be able to reference the source data on these sites to determine how their files should be organized, messing with this will cause confusion.

Ideally we’d love to have one a singular data set managed by Plex so people could just reference our mediaverse if they needed information but this isn’t something we could realistically do right now without inconveniencing a lot of people.

@drzoidberg33 will there be a limit amount of actors for a show? I notices that when searching for actors like Sean Bean, his role in Game of Thrones is not listed in the mediaverse (but mentioned in the text) and also not in the old TMDb Agent. Would be nice to have all the actors listed even for Show with a huge cast list. In the beginning the cast list was limited on Movies but extended later. (not tried the preview but will for sure try the beta)

Yes currently we’re using TMDB as the default on these pages.