Per his post it’s not supported yet but is on their list to be implemented.
-Shark2k
I personally prefer how TVdb does it because especially for animated things when I recognize a voice but can’t place it I don’t always know or remember the name of the character. It would be nice to have a Per-Library option as opposed to per-show. But ideally it’d be a library default but a manually toggle on the show, similar to how the Show Seasons is. There’s a library option, but each show also has the option to override that for that show.
Is that new for this new scanner? Because for Series that hasn’t been the case previously, the outermost folder for the show has been the primary for the show, then episodes are filename unless the file doesn’t have it, then it looks for a season in the sub-folder. This can be a real problem, especially with things like Anime where you have some really long titles.
I Don’t Want to Get Hurt, So I’ll Max Out My Defense (2020)\Season 1\I Don’t Want to Get Hurt, So I’ll Max Out My Defense (2020) S01E03 - Defense & Reaching 2nd Level.mp4
Is pretty ridiculous. I personally use things like for Doctor Who I use Smith S07E06 - The Snowmen for the file names because I feel it’s better sorting & the scanner ignores everything except the S07E06 then there’s also issues like I can’t have the show title in series like 3x3 Eyes Because 3x3 Eyes S01E01 Transmigration & 3x3 Eyes S01E02 Yakumo are treated as different versions of Season 3 episode 3. I have to name them Three By Three Eyes S01E02 Yakumo so that they don’t.
The matching of the show has always been done on the folder side. Like when you have optimized versions the versions are thrown in a subfolder with just S01E01
I’m sure I’m not the only one who would find it unusable to have that changed
In the previous TVdb Agent it does support Aliases, it will match if the title is an alias title, but it will name it in the library with the primary name not keep the Alias
TVdb uses the (YEAR) as the Year in the earliest episode, but when there are 2 series with the same name it will have the second one as Show (YEAR) for the title & would really be seeing it as Show (YEAR) (YEAR) when you do a Fix Match You should have the YEAR in the date field not in the title field, unless it’s a show like Doctor Who (2005) from (2005) as opposed to Doctor Who from (1963).
Blackadder the TV series, has randomly become “The Black Adder” which is not correct, because BlackAdder is his name. With a run time of 3hr 15mins which is clearly not correct.
File path example: Z:\Plex\TV\Blackadder\Season 01\Blackadder - S01E01 - The Foretelling.mkv
IMDb also sadly has this information too - “The Black Adder” is the original title (but is not the title it is actually known as) and oddly has a runtime of 3hr15min despite clearly saying there are 7 episodes.
TMDb: https://www.themoviedb.org/tv/7246-blackadder (correct)
IMDb: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0084988/ (dodgy)
TVDB: https://thetvdb.com/series/blackadder (correct)
An issue I’ve run into a lot with the new Movie Agent is that it seems to use IMDB almost exclusively for information, which is most likely to have incorrect information, as well as hardest to get that information fixed. It’s not surprising that the new Series Scanner would have the same issue. On the plus side IMDB has better cast information hands down, but while that’s a nice thing, to have bad dates, Movie/Series Names, & episode names in my opinion are much more important.
As a contributor to both TVdb as well as TheMovieDB (IMDB too but they really suck ever since Amazon took over so I usually don’t bother anymore) loosing the ability to fix problems when I find them & have Plex get the right stuff after an hour (TMDB) or a week (TVdb) makes me reluctant to make that switch, unless the new Agent & Scanner give us something other than just a different source that doesn’t work as well. Like maybe the ability to add special features to a series or a way to rename a season without having to rely on the workaround, or the ability to add episodes to a collection.
Blackadder the TV series, has randomly become “The Black Adder” which is not correct, because BlackAdder is his name
I see the title as “BlackAdder” on my end, it does appear as “The Black Adder” for some languages and countries, what language setting do you have?
I’m set to United Kingdom - the country that actually created it. It definitely should not be “The Black Adder” however Season 1 is called that, but the show itself should just be “Blackadder” (It is correct on my main server which is not running this new experimental build)
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While I would generally agree with you… it appears the online repositories are at least offering some contradicting inputs. In particular they’re labelling the show’s original / UK title as “The Black Adder” (while showing the show’s name itself as Blackadder) – I suppose that’s causing the confusion for Plex…
There’s a general consensus with some outliers. The reason for this is understandable if you know anything about the series. The 1st season was originally called The Black Adder & it starts with the ancestor creating his name. After that it becomes the family surname & follows different generations each season. It’s similar to how Anime shows don’t have Season 2 they have Show Name R or Show Name Subtitle or sometimes Completely Unrelated Name With No Reference To The Original. But in those cases for collecting purposes generally places like TVdb will have them listed under the original season’s name or the common name if they each have a part that is the same across. BlackAdder had all the seasons except the 1st using BlackAdder which makes sense if you understand that the original didn’t have that surname, while all the other generations did. But when the Good Databases TVdb & TMDB are in agreement & the less good one IMDB is even in agreement sometimes depending on your country it makes no sense to see 10 marshmallow bags from known brands, including the loved ones like “Jet-Puffed” & “Campfire” with white marshmallows in them & 1 bag of marshmallows from Palmer (known for having dodgy candy & gross chocolate) & some random store brands with grey ones & decide that marshmallows are grey.
All this isn’t really relevant to the topic at hand. The issue here is that the sources in the new agent are, much like my issues with the new movie agent, favoring the Palmer brand unless Palmer doesn’t have it. My personal solution to this would be the obvious “Put IMDB as the last choice instead of the 1st” which would solve this issue, as well as probably most of the others. For series most everyone has used TVdb & for movies TMDB as their primary sources forever. Why is Plex so insistent on pushing IMDB so hard?
I personally prefer IMDb over the other two choices, especially TVDB. Maybe I am in the minority there, but I for one have found the metadata on the new movie agent to be much better, and am looking forward to similar results with the TV agent.
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Nothing wrong with different opinions, but I’m really curious what titles had better information on IMDB because I have never seen that aside from cast information but have seen the opposite over & over, especially during the holidays with less popular holiday specials. Again, not saying your opinion is bad, I am just surprised to hear someone say IMDB has better data because I’ve only once ever had something on IMDB that wasn’t just as good on TMDB or TVdb once. While there’s a whole tread about the new movie agent giving no information or wrong information from IMDB when they exist on TMDB or have the correct information
From IMDB:
Edit the Library, try this setting under Advanced:
It seems backwards, but I think The Black Adder is the correct localized title for the first series. That’s how BBC lists it:
But I’m curious - do you also have the later series, II/Third/Forth? On TVDB those were all part of one series, and on IMDB they’re four different series with different IDs.
Only thing I can spot is when there are two series with the same name but a few decades apart, it’ll prefer the older series over the new for its match.
The new scanner works much better in picking up Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex than the other scanners.
Yes - this is the problem. The series in general should be called Blackadder, with each season having it’s own title. Because IMDb lists each season as a different item rather than as a season within a series - the new scanner produces the wrong result (for me). On my production server - the old scanner correctly lists it as Blackadder. I’ll try adding a second season to the beta and see if it makes any difference or if it in fact (as I suspect), follows IMDb and thinks the second season is a series all on it’s own - not linked to the first.
I don’t know why but the scrolling in this new library seemed very fast compared to the old, even though they point to the same source. I might have to look into that… =)
I really like that we get to see a preview when trying to fix match.
The first problem I get is the same as with the old agents, when trying to re-match a series (thetvdb:ID #265361) and choosing Norwegian as language nothing changes. The search result still shows everything in English. How come it is so difficult?
Where does Plex TV fetch the data from? Is it a mix of sources? I recognize some from theTVDB since I’m the one whom created the artwork an uploaded there.
EDIT: Found a bug: it reverts back to show the TMDB rating score even though I change it to the IMDB in the library advanced setting.
There are no apps for Western Digital PR2100 OS5 but for version 3? That doesn’t make any sense. Can someone give feedback as to when OS5 would be available to test out the new app?
Hi @SanchezHouse Sorry, I missed posting those links. I have updated the links now.
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Thank you.
We currently only have TMDB translations and only at the show level. I think there just aren’t many shows that have been translated but it does work for me when the show has a translation, e.g.) Game of Thrones.
Yes, it’s from a combination of sources.
What do you mean it reverts? The setting or the actual rating on the items? Did you change the setting and then refresh the metadata?
I can reproduce this.
Edit the Library, → Advanced
Change Ratings Source to TheTVDB or IMDb.
Save Changes
Go back to check:
Edit the Library, → Advanced
Ratings Source has reverted to The Movie Database.
I think the setting is actually saving, because a Refresh Metadata does use the configured Ratings Source. I think it’s just not populating in the UI.
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