TVDB is undergoing a major overhaul of something apparently very important (they’ve jacked the roof up and are moving a new TVDB under it - or something). Matching will be compromised/intermittent for the next 24 to 48 hours.
Having said that your names and structure are non-compliant. Plex and TVDB don’t care about your personal opinion. If you want it to work you’ll have to capitulate.You’ll find Mickey stuff here (let’s hope this works - it didn’t). Without TVDB up I can’t give you any working examples because I can’t find the exact name at TVDB, but it’s going to look something like this:
A TV Show Library/
… Exact Name at TVDB/
…Season ???/ < Disney may be Season 01, or it could be Season 2017 - I can’t see what it’s going to be
…Exact Name at TVDB - S2017EXX.xxx
or
…Exact Name at TVDB - SXXEXX.xxx
Trying to run these in right now will be painful - I’d wait a while, to be honest.
I have the names properly.
TV Shows
-------- Mickey and the Roadsters Racers
-------------- Season 1
------------------ Mickey and the Roadster Racers - S01E08
TV Shows
-------- Mickey and the Roadster Racers
-------------- Season 1
------------------ Mickey and the Roadster Racers - S01E08
That would be correct - E08 is ‘Egg-xasperating!’
If you have two episodes in one file you can name them:
Mickey and the Roadster Racers - S01E08-E09
or
Mickey and the Roadster Racers - S01E08
then make the next one:
Mickey and the Roadster Racers - S01E10
Just a general comment. The TVDB, is like Wikipedia (user entered data), and although, we have to match, in order for Plex to work; they are generally non-compliant with reality, when it comes to some TV shows, and episode naming.
@“Frank Logan” said:
Just a general comment. The TVDB, is like Wikipedia (user entered data), and although, we have to match, in order for Plex to work; they are generally non-compliant with reality, when it comes to some TV shows, and episode naming.
Yep - pretty much.
TVDB is working (at the moment) and I’m trying to clear up a back-log of items that accumulated over the last 36 hours and as I desperately search for the ‘correct’ listing for The American Masters episode about Patsy Cline I find it must be some kind of Planetary Secret because the ONLY thing I can be sure of is it ‘Premiered’ on March 4th, 2017. As far as a Season and Episode that’s up for grabs. That episode currently exists in two seasons - 30 and 31 at TVDB. IF I could research and find the correct listing from the guys at American Masters, as a contributor I could ‘correct’ the information at TVDB, but I can’t.
The only thing I CAN do is pick the listing at TVDB that at least uses the correct Premiere date and that’ll put it in Season 30 at Episode 12 - as it stands today. This may even change at some point, but today, at this minute, that’s the best I can do.
We’re all at the mercy of the ONLY TV Show Database for Plex (that makes the most sense, most of the time) and currently that’s TVDB.
@“Frank Logan” said:
Just a general comment. The TVDB, is like Wikipedia (user entered data), and although, we have to match, in order for Plex to work; they are generally non-compliant with reality, when it comes to some TV shows, and episode naming.
Yep - pretty much.
TVDB is working (at the moment) and I’m trying to clear up a back-log of items that accumulated over the last 36 hours and as I desperately search for the ‘correct’ listing for The American Masters episode about Patsy Cline I find it must be some kind of Planetary Secret because the ONLY thing I can be sure of is it ‘Premiered’ on March 4th, 2017. As far as a Season and Episode that’s up for grabs. That episode currently exists in two seasons - 30 and 31 at TVDB. IF I could research and find the correct listing from the guys at American Masters, as a contributor I could ‘correct’ the information at TVDB, but I can’t.
The only thing I CAN do is pick the listing at TVDB that at least uses the correct Premiere date and that’ll put it in Season 30 at Episode 12 - as it stands today. This may even change at some point, but today, at this minute, that’s the best I can do.
We’re all at the mercy of the ONLY TV Show Database for Plex (that makes the most sense, most of the time) and currently that’s TVDB.
Very true. The same issue that plagues Wikipedia, however is also present on TVDB… people create a listing the way they want it, regardless of how it really is, then lock it from editing. I added the show Terra Nova, and according to TVDB, a 13 episode series, is really 11. They have the first 2 ep, listed as 1, and the last 2 listed as 1. I know how it happened, the listing creator, dowloaded the show, where these ep are combinded, and they didn’t want to bother to split them.
As a contributor to TVDB I have no ability to lock anything.
I believe that is done by staff when the material is deemed to be correct to keep the unwashed masses (like me) from changing it to something they like better. I wouldn’t do that - just sayin’.
I do research my entries to the best of my ability in an effort to get it right, but sometimes that’s real hard to do.
I’ve noticed the downtime at TVDB recently so I’ve been sort of just waiting for things to quiet down before addressing match weirdness. I did want to throw out there something I’ve experienced in the last couple days that perhaps others have seen. Plex is matching episodes up to 16, but episode numbers great than that (17 and greater) don’t have any metadata. This is the famed Looney Tunes collection which I’ve switched over to TVDB’s yearly series naming convention. The strange thing is that for all of the years, shows with episode #s 16 and less match fine and the others don’t.
Personally, I think it’s something in the TVDB APIs that are off at the moment. I try not to rush in headlong into these issues as they tend to clear up on their own. However it’s another data point in what seems like a potentially similar issue.
The thing to know about Plex and TV Shows is that nothing short of 100% compliance with file names and folder structures is going to produce anything that can be considered reliable. I’ve never had an issue with any numbers. If that issue persists create a new thread with a full set of logs:
@JuiceWSA said:
TV Shows
-------- Mickey and the Roadster Racers
-------------- Season 1
------------------ Mickey and the Roadster Racers - S01E08
That would be correct - E08 is ‘Egg-xasperating!’
If you have two episodes in one file you can name them:
Mickey and the Roadster Racers - S01E08-E09
or
Mickey and the Roadster Racers - S01E08
then make the next one:
Mickey and the Roadster Racers - S01E10
I tried both your suggestions.
Renaming it to S01E08-E09 created two entries in plex, but it was the same video file. So if I start playing episode 09 I would need to fast forward to about half the recording to view the 2nd half.
Your second suggestion of S01E08 and then S01E10 worked better, although I don’t like it since that is not how the shows were broadcast. But like you all made some comments here. We are at the mercy of TheTVDB and they weird rules of naming things.
I actually asked for a change request on the thetvdb forums and was denied.
Multi-segments stories are split per our rules.
You can recombine them by using the DVD order: Welcome - TheTVDB.com … &order=dvd
So does anyone know a good free video editor to split a TV show into two?
That link tells you how to join 'em, but with some fiddling (reverse engineering) you can split them, but there’s a big caveat:
They are (probably) put together expertly with a Frame Accurate editor. Once that happens they’re ruined for any other purpose. 1) there is no frame accurate editor for h264 files (their make up simply doesn’t allow it) and 2) all the single episode credits are gone.
Just edit the description to include both episode’s info, fast forward and deal with it the best you can. It’s what the rest of us do.
