Thank you. It’s already taken 3 weeks for anyone to acknowledge the problem. Hopefully they address the lack of a link to manage it as urgently as fixing the glitch. We all appreciate your interaction here as we often go weeks without anyone from Plex responding.
I already said it was a bug to have rows with duplicate content in them 
Each library having its own Recently Added hub is not a bug, and soon there will be some more distinction, so it’ll say Recently Added in Movies, or Recently Added in Anime, etc., to better reflect your separation of libraries. We’ve heard that users would like more control over what appears on the Home Screen and on the Recommended page, so we’re working to give more control over what is shown to you, and users you share with. This is just an interim step on the way there.
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Please understand it’s also been a holiday period, and many folks have been taking some much needed and deserved time off to unwind and spend time with their families, away from work, after the year that was 2020.
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That sums it up fairly well. Thanks.
What 1980 HDD & OS are you using? Moving items, even if needed, doesn’t actually move anything on the drive, it just changes the location tag on the Inode to a different location. But even if it was writing… I just made a copy on an 8TB HDD over USB to a different drive & it took the better part of a day because of the USB limitations, but it wasn’t anywhere close to melting down or even overheating… [quote=“DaveBinM, post:228, topic:666191”]
this is something we have heard from the community for a long time
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I’m curious as to what you’re referring to here honestly. There are a lot of things the community has been asking about for a long time… Like special features for TV or support for multiple editions of the same movie being a couple big ones that have been requested for a long time… but “give me more recommendation libraries” isn’t one I’ve seen much of personally, maybe I’m missing those somehow…
Just curious, what was the point of removing the “Recently added” from the library’s “Recommend” tab? I’m sure that was a result of this, but for example, when you don’t have say, a holiday library show up on the home screen there’s now no way to see recently added for things that aren’t on the Home… Just saying…
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That hasn’t been removed.
Edit - I take part of this back. I see it for 1 library, but not for another. Hmm…
Users have said for a long time, they want more control over what is shown to users they share with, and this is work towards that, and that’s what is referred to in my original post. Just because work on one thing is happening, doesn’t mean other things aren’t happening in parallel. Not sure if you’ve seen, but there’s an entire rewrite and update of the TV agent and scanner currently underway, that is in the preview stage.
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I see it for all my libraries
The other platforms were easy to manage and remove the additional rows. It makes zero sense that this option was left off the SmartTV platforms. It shouldn’t require “working to give users more control” when the other platforms still had it. The concept of removing it in the first place on certain platforms boggles the mind.
I have, I appreciate that it’s happening but it doesn’t look like it adds special features, it looks like it’s changing to a Plex Unified Metadata Agent similar to the Movie one, but it looks to be making IMDB the primary instead of TVdb which I personally dislike & will probably end up using the old one, because the new one doesn’t seem to add anything, just seems to shift it to a lower quality source, &, if it follows what happened with the Movie one, will make it impossible to use an alternative for a single entry like you can now. I know plenty of people have different opinions as to the Metadata sources than I do, which is fine, but as a previous contributor to IMDB I gave up on it awhile because they seem less concerned with correct information. Then for Plex TVdb require posters in a singular size, which can be annoying at times, but makes them always look right in Plex. IMDB, from my experience, half the time have main posters that are a wide variety of sizes & often end up cropped funny by Plex.
I get about half & half. They seem to all have the Recently Released but half don’t have the Recently Added but that’s only for ones hidden from home, so it’s 2 of 4, not enough to make conclusive conclusions with.
Honestly I have to disagree, Smart TVs have to be smaller, more contained, or entirely WebBased apps, The Vizio app on one TV seems to only store a cookie locally, so less customizable is a given
It is not making IMDB the primary agent. The data is sourced from IMDB, TMDB, and TVDB, and certain parts will come from different sources, there is no one “primary source” for everything. There is no point in mentioning something which is not yet testable. This is still a preview. There are a lot of advantages to using the new agent, such as more accurate matching, better cast lists, the ability to potentially have cast per episode or season, and being able to link cast across multiple libraries. Where you’ve got this assumption that we’re making IMDB the primary source from, I don’t know, but it’s not accurate.
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That’s how the New Movie agent is, & no matter how many times people say otherwise the evidence is pretty conclusive. Especially while doing holiday stuff there’s a number of items that have missing or incorrect information on IMDB but correct or present information on TMDB. Those one ALWAYS pull posters, dates, descriptions, etc from IMDB. Cast is one area where IMDB is better than any other, & there was talk about the cast information being improved particularly to show the actor photo instead of the one from whichever series was last updated. & I appreciate those changes. In the test forum there’s a lot of discussion about things not matching properly, & almost always it’s matching information from IMDB that is wrong, which follows the same issue that is present in the New Movie Agent. All that aside, it’d be something I can live with except with the New Movie library you can’t Fix Match & use a different agent like you used to (you can use the fix match, but it’ll just identify the movie using the old agent then update it with the wrong or bad data on IMDB) & while that’s annoying for movies it’s much more critical for TV series, where, particularly for Anime, sometimes a show’s structure is so outside the normal that TVdb doesn’t work for it & you use AniDB or HamaTV to get the correct information.
From everything I’ve seen the new agent is supposed to be following the same structure as the new movie agent. All your list of improvements
Support the idea that IMDB is the primary as well
If you bother to have a look at the IDs actors have you’d see that they’re Plex IDs, not ones from IMDB, and we’re combining multiple sources, including IMDB and TMDB. I’m going to have to defer to one of my colleagues here for the exact specifics, but I can say with certainty that much of what you’ve posted is inaccurate and is misinformation, based on your own anecdotal assumptions, with no real knowledge of how it works.
Calling it anecdotal is fair because it is, I never said otherwise, but
- 3+ times: A movie existed on TMDB but not on IMDB. The movie would show no, or no correct matches, but when
Fix Matched it would find the movie on TMDB but would update no information. - 10+ times: Movie would match but the information updated would be incorrect. When checked the correct information would be present on TMDB but IMDB would have the incorrect information that was pulled.
- 5+ times: Movie matched but had horrible artwork, TMDB had real artwork for the movie but IMDB only had screencaps. The middle of a screencap was the only option for a poster twice.
Is that proof of how it works? No. Of course not. But it is empirical evidence that leads to a common conclusion.
I’m always told that it’s Plex’s aggregated database, & that it used multiple sources, but from all evidence I’ve seen that database always uses IMDB’s information when there is a conflict between sources, & sometimes information that exists elsewhere but not on IMDB also doesn’t exist on Plex’s hidden database. With that information what other conclusion could I possibly make?
As I said, in the forum for the new TV Agent we were told that the new agent is supposed to fix the issue where an actor’s image, in the past, would be the image from TVdb for the last show added with that actor. This isn’t a feature I care too much about, I didn’t know it was an issue until I saw that discussion, & I think it’s going to be an improvement. Since I didn’t notice it before I doubt I’ll notice it in the future whether it changes or not, but if I ever decide to try to watch another movie or show from an actor I will likely prefer it to be a picture of them rather than their character, even though I personally like how TVdb has their character because with animation it makes it very slightly easier to look up. But I have no desire nor reason to look up what ID is given by Plex to that actor. & I would surmise from that discussion previously mentioned that in the past that information wasn’t provided by IMDB anyway. I simply made a comment that I think cast is an area that IMDB is superior, but one of few, if not the only one.
Anyways, I appreciate you commenting here, it’s rare to get contributions from Plex Employees in these discussions, but I feel this has gotten horribly sidetracked from the intent of this thread. I apologize
I’m pretty OCD, so there is a lot of customization I’ve done on films, and particularly on TV series. Moving all TV shows into one library may not require moving the actual files because we can just attach the additional folders to the library, but doing that WILL strip the series back to whatever the agent has for them and not import any customization. That alone is a nightmare. If there was a way to combine the existing libraries as they are under one master TV library, that would be one thing, but that’s not how the program works. My library is massive, and customizing the library setup is a HUGE reason many of us love Plex.
Now what you said about actors connecting across libraries sounds fantastic, but I would feel a lot better if we could customize the actor images as well. The current setup is a struggle. I’ve logged in and cleaned up so many actor images and cast information on both TVDB and TMDB, but people make random changes that don’t make sense that F— up the whole setup. Plex also doesn’t understand that two different actors can have the same name with completely separate IDs and images on TVDB or TMDB. Plex always combines them as one person. Everytime a new movie or TV episode gets added, I cringe at what changes the new metadata pull is going to make across the whole Plex actor database. I love the idea of one integrated database, but it sounds like Plex will control it entirely.
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I just got on an Anaglyph (red and blue 3D glasses) movie kick… so there’s another reason I want a totally separate library. I don’t want to have to dig for which movies I have duplicates of in 3D. Other than the Blue 2, there’s no marker to indicate why there’s a duplicate movie in the same library, and I also don’t want to accidentally play the wrong version on first click.
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Its pretty amazing that in the name of providing “more customization and options” we are being told that we shouldn’t customize the way we sort our content. No one is even saying not to move forward, just to let us simply do what we have been doing for years.
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Maybe if I keep posting here we’ll get a fix to customise smart tvs or even just a patch for this glitchfest that just duplicates each library on the home screen several times. But highly doubtful 
Do actually mean the libraries or the rows of identical Recently Added stuff?
