On Deck, Continue Watching & Recently Added

But it’s not even possible to get it back to a state where nothing has changed. They removed that possibility. And yes I know RA can be combined.

@DaveBinM did you see this post? On Deck, Continue Watching & Recently Added - #1052 by yiveyplex Are you going to make it possible to combine RRE or at least reorder the items so RA comes before any RRE?

Edit: Spelling

The order should respect what you have set in the Manage recommendations page. As for the Recently Released Episodes. I don’t believe they were combined previously, were they? :thinking:

Ah! I hadn’t seen that it was possible to change the order in Manage recommendations. That solves the weird ordering. :+1:

Can’t say if RRE was combined before since I didn’t need to have multiple libraries until recently. Perhaps someone that did can confirm (or say it wasn’t)? I’m just not seeing any reason for RRE being separated if it’s possible to combine RA. At least give us the option to combine.

Also, right now Home only shows the RRE hubs without any reference to what library it’s from. Will this be corrected? Makes it somewhat of a guessing game…

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We should definitely be naming the library, and I’ll follow up on that internally. As far as I can remember, the only “combined” hubs were the Recently Added ones

adding another to your “follow up”… If you have same name collections, there’s no indication as to which library they are in. Example: I have a “Christmas” collection in two movie libraries, and another in an “Other/Home Movies” Library. All three collections show when you’re on a pre-play screen, but in this case, they all use “Movies in Christmas Collection”

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Regarding the merging of Continue Watching with On Deck, I maintain that there is a clear difference between a partially watched movie, and the next episode of a TV series - it will be on different occasions that I am looking to watch one or the other of those things, and it makes more sense to me to keep them separate. Other people might prefer them to be shown together in one row, but there should certainly be the option to keep them separate.

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So will this be reverted as On Deck is a key part of Plex and this current “improvement” is made by someone who:

  • Is out of touch with the Plex community and the overall needs and intended design, On Deck and Continue watching are NOT the same thing
  • Does not use Plex on a day to day basis
  • Has no idea what good UX design is

This is happening so often in recent years that is does seem very clear the developers keep getting out of touch with their actual user base.

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I actually feel bad for the developers. They are all probably working crazy hours and pulling their hair out

I think they have been challenged with an almost impossible task in the time frame they are being given to make changes like introducing other apps and VOD inside of Plex

Even Amazon doesn’t do this well on Fire devices and Jeff Bezos has 50 million in his wallet

I think combining the CW and OD was just a shortcut to get the UI in the condition they need to implement the changes that are coming.

I also think that’s also why you’re seeing things roll out with mistakes (six items in your continue watching row, videos not showing duplicates, libraries reverting to Title View, names for libraries missing ect…)

Credit where credit is due…They did already fix some of that and they did listen to people who wanted the RA rows recombined

Hopefully that trend continues

It’s more a self created wound again not a usual development snafu.

This is what test groups are for and not removing such a key feature saves them from this 1000+ post shitstorm.

This is coming from a 8+ Year loyal Plex user and if this doesn’t get reverted will just call it quits and pool my development time into Jellyfin.

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Agree with all of that Rick.
Emby users created Jellyfin after they made changes that people weren’t happy about

On another note I have a question for anyone who has mastered these library settings

Not on the home screen but under library view, recommended tab (TV library) I’d like to move recently added TV above Recently Released Episodes

But every time I change the order on the server, continue watching moves into the second spot on my player and in Windows

I want continue watching to stay at the top, just swap RA and RRE

Sorry if this isn’t clear

Here’s what I have on my player

1.CW

2.RRE

3.RA

When I swap the order of RA and RRE in the server library settings here’s what happens

1.RA

2.CW

3.RRE

There is no tab to move continue watching around under libraries in the server settings so why is it moving?

Is this just the way it works now, a known issue being worked on or am I doing something wrong?

Hmm, that sounds like a bug. Continue Watching should always be at the top. Do you see this if you reset the hubs to the default in Manage Recommendations? :thinking:

When you change the order are you moving Recently Added up, or are you moving Recently Released down?

When I tested here just now, moving Recently Added up resulted in:
Recently Added
Continue Watching
Recently Released

However, moving Recently Released down resulted in:
Continue Watching
Recently Added
Recently Released

This behavior is reproducible, at least on my system.

[Edit to add]
The above tests were performed by resetting defaults in-between.

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Yeah Dave I did do that and it didn’t seem to fix it. But it does appear to be a bug because it worked fine the 1st time I tried it in another library

So I went back to the one I was having issues with and swapped RA and RRE several times, checking each time I did it.

No luck for the first 10 times but then it just kicked in and everything was how it should be
In other words I had it the right way several times with no change but then it resolved itself

I moved it too many times to remember which I moved up or down phillipsw LOL

If your test is reproducible I suspect I was moving RA up at first then just got lucky by doing the reverse the last time it worked

That’s probably a good clue for the developers to figure out what’s going on

I was pretty sure CW wasn’t supposed to move, so something they need to look into for sure

That did it, thanks. Though I will note that it DID seem to mess with some of what I’d customized in Settings > Manage > Libraries… though inconsistently.

Can we get an option to hide Continue Watching in favor of each server’s On Deck, since it still exists if you select the server.

Or some client-side options for Continue watching to see which servers and sections we want to populate? Or the ability to set client-side limits to how long shows stay in On Deck/Continue watching instead of having to do it on the server admin end?

Thanks!

Hmmm, I’ve been trying to reproduce this for the last 30 minutes, but not having any luck, I’m afraid. Do you have any more details on how to reproduce?

Hi Dave. I’m curious, do you not see the behavior I described above? Without quoting my entire post, the behavior I see is that if I move Recently Added up (as opposed to moving Recently Released down), Continue Watching is demoted. However, if I move Recently Released down, Continue Watching remains at the top. Library customizations are reset between each move.

Perhaps it’s just a quirk of my system, but it’s completely reproducible there.

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Ohhhh, on the library page, not the Home Screen! Silly me. Cheers!

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I found the only way I could get the order to display correctly was to arrange the enabled at the bottom with all disabled categories above.

I moved a few of the disabled items to the top and it got worse

The continue watching ended up in the 3rd row down

But when I moved everything back it all went in the right order finally

I somehow got all of them correct so I’m done experimenting because it seems to do whatever it feels like

It’s like solving a Rubix’s cube. There might be a formula for solving it but sometimes you get it right, just by accident