Plex Cloud vs VPS - why we went with a VPS

@pjburnhill said:
Just would like to add my 2cents: I’ve actually taken down my VPS Plex Server and using Plex Cloud only :slight_smile: I was adding more and more functionality to my VPS (CouchPotato, Sonarr, Transmission, etc etc) when I realised I could do pretty much all of this via ‘the cloud’. So I now use IFTTT to monitor various RSS feeds, feeding those to Offcloud which downloads and uploads them to a specific folder on my GDrive. My media feed is on autopilot B)

I get notifications when media is processed and can check daily what has been added to Plex :slight_smile:

The only thing I use the VPS now is sorting the media with Filebot (google-drive-ocamlfuse – Rclone was having issues), cloning GDrive to Amazon and running Squid to access gov’t blocked sites. I can use the cheapest Scaleway VPS which is like £3/month.

Any chance you could do a dummy guide for this, I just started with all of this and still looking for the best way to do things for my setup and its just getting overwhelming with all of the advanced technology I have no idea how to used lol . Isnt the account for offcloud expensive as the free one only allows 3 downloads per month

@Coniglio said:

@pjburnhill said:
Just would like to add my 2cents: I’ve actually taken down my VPS Plex Server and using Plex Cloud only :slight_smile: I was adding more and more functionality to my VPS (CouchPotato, Sonarr, Transmission, etc etc) when I realised I could do pretty much all of this via ‘the cloud’. So I now use IFTTT to monitor various RSS feeds, feeding those to Offcloud which downloads and uploads them to a specific folder on my GDrive. My media feed is on autopilot B)

I get notifications when media is processed and can check daily what has been added to Plex :slight_smile:

The only thing I use the VPS now is sorting the media with Filebot (google-drive-ocamlfuse – Rclone was having issues), cloning GDrive to Amazon and running Squid to access gov’t blocked sites. I can use the cheapest Scaleway VPS which is like £3/month.

Any chance you could do a dummy guide for this, I just started with all of this and still looking for the best way to do things for my setup and its just getting overwhelming with all of the advanced technology I have no idea how to used lol . Isnt the account for offcloud expensive as the free one only allows 3 downloads per month

+1 - I second that

@hthighway said:
The 3 transcode limit and lack of encryption are the main reasons I don’t use Plex Cloud anymore

But if you use unlimited storage on GSuite, you can use your local server/computer to pre-transcode your file to a common format (using handbrake, Plex’s optimizer or the script @cayars has made. Once that’s done, files won’t need to be transcoded…

Sure, will eat up your upload bandwidth for a while, but then you’ll be happy.

I guess you could even make a few copies with different bitrates to serve different users’ needs without requiring transcoding

@KarlDag said:

@hthighway said:
The 3 transcode limit and lack of encryption are the main reasons I don’t use Plex Cloud anymore

But if you use unlimited storage on GSuite, you can use your local server/computer to pre-transcode your file to a common format (using handbrake, Plex’s optimizer or the script @cayars has made. Once that’s done, files won’t need to be transcoded…

I like my files with less compression and a higher bitrate. Besides being able to stream them, the media stored on ACD acts as a backup to my local storage. For my use at home these files DIRECTPLAY on the clients I use, but the family I share with all use various tablets, phones and browsers on less than an ideal connection so they usually transcode.

I guess you could even make a few copies with different bitrates to serve different users’ needs without requiring transcoding

That’s more time than I care to spend on each file, and lastly all the media would then need to be stored un-encrypted for it to work with Plex Cloud and that is something I’m definitely not going to do.

@hthighway said:

@KarlDag said:

@hthighway said:
The 3 transcode limit and lack of encryption are the main reasons I don’t use Plex Cloud anymore

But if you use unlimited storage on GSuite, you can use your local server/computer to pre-transcode your file to a common format (using handbrake, Plex’s optimizer or the script @cayars has made. Once that’s done, files won’t need to be transcoded…

I like my files with less compression and a higher bitrate. Besides being able to stream them, the media stored on ACD acts as a backup to my local storage. For my use at home these files DIRECTPLAY on the clients I use, but the family I share with all use various tablets, phones and browsers on less than an ideal connection so they usually transcode.

I guess you could even make a few copies with different bitrates to serve different users’ needs without requiring transcoding

That’s more time than I care to spend on each file, and lastly all the media would then need to be stored un-encrypted for it to work with Plex Cloud and that is something I’m definitely not going to do.

Agree about encryption. My point was about the transcoding for shared users… That’s an easily manageable aspect, IMO, for Gsuite users.

Hi. This whole issue of mounting plex in a VPS seems very interesting, but my knowledge is minimal on vps, rclone, etc. Could you recommend me a tutorial or where to start reading, in order to achieve what you have achieved?
Suggestions are welcome. Regards

here you go

I am using ssdnodes.com as my VPS provider. I found a special ($6.49/mo) and decided to just do it.

Running CentOS 7.2, Google Drive (for the moment) and RCLONE/FUSE. Note: You need to request from the VPS provider to enable FUSE.

PROBLEM: I was able to create the ssh tunnel, run the command ssh -L 8888:localhost:32400 myIPaddress, and I was able to login to Plex using http://127.0.0.1:8888/web. I claimed the server, but it does not appear in Plex.tv as a server. I only have visibility to the server from my own console (at home). My brother cannot see my new server.

Do I need to open additional ports on the firewall?

I would appreciate any help.

–Brad

Yes, you do. I used these commands to enable both Plex and trakt.tv:

sudo apt-get install ufw
sudo nano /etc/default/ufw (make sure IPV6=yes)

sudo ufw default deny incoming
sudo ufw default allow outgoing

sudo ufw allow ssh
sudo ufw allow 32400/tcp
sudo ufw allow 32400/udp
sudo ufw allow 33400/tcp
sudo ufw allow 33400/udp

Not sure if both TCP and UDP are necessary but it works :smile:

PS that’s on Ubuntu, don’t know if Centos is different.

I didn’t have to open any ports on my ssdnodes using Ubuntu.

But I can’t access my server for another 4 days. Hit bandwidth limited lol.

@per_PLEX_ed said:
PS that’s on Ubuntu, don’t know if Centos is different.

Yes, CentOS 7 used systemctl.

I guess I am not sure if I needed to open ports for GDM:

32410/udp
32412/udp
32413/udp
32414/udp
32469/tcp

Originally I just opened 32400/tcp.

And now I cannot see the server at all. Hmmm.

I may need to re-claim the server?.?

So I found the answer, yeah!!!

If you are using a VPS server with only a public IP, you must select “Manually specify public port” and choose 32400.

@ateluz said:
Hi. This whole issue of mounting plex in a VPS seems very interesting, but my knowledge is minimal on vps, rclone, etc. Could you recommend me a tutorial or where to start reading, in order to achieve what you have achieved?
Suggestions are welcome. Regards

This is my first experience working with a VPS. There are some knowledge challenges you face, such as asking the VPS to enable FUSE. So from a minimal CentOS 7.2 install, I’ve had to install plex, fuse, rclone, zip/unzip at a minimum. There are many tutorials out there which are usually very helpful.

I would not be discouraged. My ONLY reason for using a VPS vs. Plex Cloud was due to the high cost of storage and ACD is not available on Plex Cloud. And this is to support relatives. LOL I have a couple of VMware servers to host content, perform transcode only content, for LAN use, and testing various solutions. I have Spectrum (Charter) Internet and I am capped at 5 mbps upload so this doesn’t allow for great streaming for 3 people at one time.

Anyway, most VPS providers have a trial period. I am using ssdnodes.com due to a good sale price.

@bradscott@charter.net said:

@ateluz said:
Hi. This whole issue of mounting plex in a VPS seems very interesting, but my knowledge is minimal on vps, rclone, etc. Could you recommend me a tutorial or where to start reading, in order to achieve what you have achieved?
Suggestions are welcome. Regards

This is my first experience working with a VPS. There are some knowledge challenges you face, such as asking the VPS to enable FUSE. So from a minimal CentOS 7.2 install, I’ve had to install plex, fuse, rclone, zip/unzip at a minimum. There are many tutorials out there which are usually very helpful.

I would not be discouraged. My ONLY reason for using a VPS vs. Plex Cloud was due to the high cost of storage and ACD is not available on Plex Cloud. And this is to support relatives. LOL I have a couple of VMware servers to host content, perform transcode only content, for LAN use, and testing various solutions. I have Spectrum (Charter) Internet and I am capped at 5 mbps upload so this doesn’t allow for great streaming for 3 people at one time.

Anyway, most VPS providers have a trial period. I am using ssdnodes.com due to a good sale price.

For the record, if your only concern is price, I believe Plex Cloud with an unlimited GSuite account at 10$/month would give you better performance and would be much easier to use than paying for ACD AND your VPS.

I should clarify my last statement; prices was my first factor for considering a move from Plex Cloud - $59 vs. $120/yr. In addition, I was not happy with the mandatory secure connection, the issues with ACD, and the fact the server goes to sleep.

I had so much fun building my own Plex server that I wrote a 6 part tutorial for those who like to dabble into Linux themselves. I’d like to hear feedback from you guys first though, especially the ones who are seasoned in Linux (I’m a total rookie myself so please be gentle). Check it out: techperplexed.blogspot.ca

There are several of you I would like to thank. First, @pjburnhill who got the ball rolling when he wrote his very easy to understand tutorial on moving content between cloud services using a VPS. If it wasn’t for him, I would never have dared to dabble into Linux, but he made it all so easy.

Second, @kelinger who not only provided several of the scripts I’m using in my tutorial, but also patiently helped me get set up with my own Plex VPS. I can’t thank him enough!

Third, the Plex employees and all the awesome forum participants who are always ready to answer any questions I may have.

Hope my tutorial will be able to help some others who may find Linux as daunting as I do!

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@per_PLEX_ed said:
I had so much fun building my own Plex server that I wrote a 6 part tutorial for those who like to dabble into Linux themselves. I’d like to hear feedback from you guys first though, especially the ones who are seasoned in Linux (I’m a total rookie myself so please be gentle). Check it out: techperplexed.blogspot.ca

There are several of you I would like to thank. First, @pjburnhill who got the ball rolling when he wrote his very easy to understand tutorial on moving content between cloud services using a VPS. If it wasn’t for him, I would never have dared to dabble into Linux, but he made it all so easy.

Second, @kelinger who not only provided several of the scripts I’m using in my tutorial, but also patiently helped me get set up with my own Plex VPS. I can’t thank him enough!

Third, the Plex employees and all the awesome forum participants who are always ready to answer any questions I may have.

Hope my tutorial will be able to help some others who may find Linux as daunting as I do!
Thank you so so so much. I will have entertainment for several weeks

@ateluz said:

@per_PLEX_ed said:
I had so much fun building my own Plex server that I wrote a 6 part tutorial for those who like to dabble into Linux themselves. I’d like to hear feedback from you guys first though, especially the ones who are seasoned in Linux (I’m a total rookie myself so please be gentle). Check it out: techperplexed.blogspot.ca

There are several of you I would like to thank. First, @pjburnhill who got the ball rolling when he wrote his very easy to understand tutorial on moving content between cloud services using a VPS. If it wasn’t for him, I would never have dared to dabble into Linux, but he made it all so easy.

Second, @kelinger who not only provided several of the scripts I’m using in my tutorial, but also patiently helped me get set up with my own Plex VPS. I can’t thank him enough!

Third, the Plex employees and all the awesome forum participants who are always ready to answer any questions I may have.

Hope my tutorial will be able to help some others who may find Linux as daunting as I do!
Thank you so so so much. I will have entertainment for several weeks

Have fun with it :smile: Let me know how it works out for you!

@per_PLEX_ed said:

@ateluz said:

@per_PLEX_ed said:
I had so much fun building my own Plex server that I wrote a 6 part tutorial for those who like to dabble into Linux themselves. I’d like to hear feedback from you guys first though, especially the ones who are seasoned in Linux (I’m a total rookie myself so please be gentle). Check it out: techperplexed.blogspot.ca

There are several of you I would like to thank. First, @pjburnhill who got the ball rolling when he wrote his very easy to understand tutorial on moving content between cloud services using a VPS. If it wasn’t for him, I would never have dared to dabble into Linux, but he made it all so easy.

Second, @kelinger who not only provided several of the scripts I’m using in my tutorial, but also patiently helped me get set up with my own Plex VPS. I can’t thank him enough!

Third, the Plex employees and all the awesome forum participants who are always ready to answer any questions I may have.

Hope my tutorial will be able to help some others who may find Linux as daunting as I do!
Thank you so so so much. I will have entertainment for several weeks

Have fun with it :smile: Let me know how it works out for you!

Love it but I wouldn’t risk it without encryption. :slight_smile:

I had a real struggle following another tutorial but that was probably because it was a minimal Ubuntu install with no GUI and other things missing. :slight_smile: