I was not in a music mood the past year due to stuff in my life but today I actually searched and researched where is the Plex Mix feature went … and here I am in this thread. Sigh…
Hope we’ll get some other nice replacement for this, really. It’s not practical for me personally to browse manually through my music collection every time I want to use it.
Please Plex Devs, remove the hole Plex Music shhit and go back to FM Agent and bring back the Plex Mix back, thanks.
Pretty amazing to me that we get new super music metadata and less features as a result.
I believe “Gracenote” was the actual source of info for tracks that made Plex Mix work as well as it did. (basically, the individual track moods and styles)
The Plex Music agent uses MusicBrainz, and is supposed to be supplemented with info from Last.FM and AllMusic. AllMusic does have moods and styles for (some) individual tracks, and it may or not be applied somehow. Plex music mostly ignores individual tracks, and puts Albums and Artists as the priority - so that it works with however the “Radio” stations work.
The opinion that “artist radio offers better and richer functionally, and the track specificity of Plex Mix didn’t really work super well in many cases” stated previously more or less sums up the probability of a similar feature returning.
The “fix” for Plex Mix was to remove all of the references in the documentation.
I can’t seem to let this go.
Sorry about that.
Now I tried to create a Sahara Honights radio (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sahara_Hotnights)
I select Sahara Hotnights. Select Saharah Hotnights Radio.
First song, Sahara Hotnights. Great start (I know, right now I am easily impressed!)… and that is it.
Next song, another Swedish artist, next song, another Swedish artis, next song, Swedish artist…
So the onlly thing Plex Radio managed to get from Sahara Hotnights, Indie Rock, Garage Rock Revival… is “Swedish”!
Does anyone have any suggestions as to any program or anything else out there that can give me back some of the “Plex Mix” feeling?
Some sort of playlist crator (yes, I can survive if I have to create a new playlist based on any track I suddenly feel like listening to - even though it will be more work to do this “every time”)?
Some plex alternative that has a better understanding of “songs” rather than "an artist will always play the same music?
Anything?
This was the best feature of Plex and I miss it dearly.
With the whole quarantine situation going on, now would be a good time to have plex mix re-integrated
Ah ■■■■! I recently gave up my Amazon Unlimited Music pass thinking that with with a Plex Pass, and the rolling out of music syncing in original quality for PMS, as well as Plex Mix, I would have a solid alternative to a streaming service that costs three times as much, and now I’ve just found out that Plex Mix is gone!! Why did you do this Plex???
for those of you missing plex mix, check out plexamp with mixbuilder.
mixbuilder > context menu
mix = only selected artists
radio = selected + related artists
I haven’t played too much with the new PlexAmp, but the first thing I looked for was a way to start an auto-generated playlist based on a specific track. That was the best part of the old Plex Mix. I didn’t have to select a genre, mood, decade or anything else. There was never a reason for me to know any of those details. All I needed to know was I wanted to hear was “On the Road Again” by Willie nelson, and a bunch of songs similar to that.
Even with all of the new radio options, there’s no guarantee that the track I was particularly wanting to hear is going to be included in the auto-generated list, even if I take the time to determine all of the moods, genres or what have you associated with that track.
The new PlexAmp is no doubt a big improvement over the old version, but none of the Radio features can be considered a working replacement for Plex Mix.
True, there is still no track specific data for track mixes to be generated, however believe me when I say that mixbuilder = still friggen awesome.
and with the 2 modes (mix or radio), you can keep the variation tight, or loosen it up for more variety.
If I understand this…
Plexamp and mixbuilder etc will give us FULL control of our music. So… If we only know what artists we want to listen to, we can instruct Plex to only play that music.
We can then mix that music, and we will only hear the music we want.
And we can add related artists to that.
So… the only thing we need is to know exactly what music we want to hear, and Plex will mix that for us…:
I do agree, it sounds awesome.
If you hadn’t given us PlexMix first.
With PlexMix
And from the email I just received - I can now see what my collection is playing… via a new app… but I still can’t have my collection played to me in a way that will entertain me.
Right now, I feel like picking up that song with Lady Gaga and whatshisname, from that film, you know… and she died. Or he did… or someone was dead, I think… and just mope to the music for an hour…But I know that if I try to do that, I will get Lady Gaga in disco mode for an hour and just get angry.
Translation: We’re releasing a new ad-supported streaming video library, oh and don’t forget about TIDAL!
Translation: We’ve changed the UI again, it’s dope.
Translation: Sorry, AllMusic wasn’t what we thought it was, but don’t mind that… We know nobody was asking for this but we really wanted to make it… check out our new “Dash” server management app. Also, since EVERYBODY has been asking for a way to enjoy mixes of their music, here’s a great new app “Plexamp” that lets you add all the music you didn’t know you wanted to hear manually and press the shuffle button, also dope!!!
@elan If you’re team has time to build two entirely new apps, one for… who… an extremely small niche of server-heads?? and another new (but the same) way of “mixing” our music, but manually… why is there no time for your team to fix something that an obviously large contingent of your PAYING users has been asking you to restore for just about a year now?
These big announcements that Plex keeps making about new services actually only serve to frustrate me (and I’m sure many others here) more because I keep hoping, is this the one?, only to be disappointment yet again when it’s predictably not.
I’ll finish on a high note in the interest of constructive criticism, the one pleasant surprise over the last few months has been the addition of the Add to playlist… sub-menu of recent playlists. That’s been a big help in speeding up manual playlist creation.
So when do we get back our track based Plex Mix?
I don’t think you’re being fair here. To be explicit, Plex Labs is not an official organization with dedicated resources; the projects inside it are passion projects, not done on company time.
So it’s not as if people were working on Plexamp and Plex Dash were doing so in lieu of working on a replacement for Plex Mix. They were spending their nights and weekends on projects which resonated with them.
You’re not quite being fair here. There are things inside Plexamp you can’t do elsewhere yet, such as multi-seeded artist radios (and lots more, but you get the point).
When we have access to the metadata which would power it. I’m sorry I don’t have a better answer for you.
@elan Fair enough, I appreciate passion projects and the value they add. Full stop.
That said, you could always encourage passionate people to fix problems if you offered bounties. You also had lots of passionate people willing to help build the platform until you shut down plugins. You still have lots of passionate people here even in this thread… who pay for your service.
You said you were getting this metadata back in Dec, what happened?
I think, without having bothered to check anywhere:
Let us face it,
But I really should stop coming back here - my paid Plex subscription is at its end in a few days - I am going with Roon for internal/home use (with Tidal integrated) and just Tidal for my travelling from now on.
I will miss plex, but I will probably survive.
I’m not sure what you’re referring to here; we looked into the track-based metadata we got from AllMusic/TiVo and it wasn’t rich enough to power track-based radio.
Always love dispelling random crap posted by people on the Internet.
FALSE. We moved as a conscious choice; AllMusic has long been on my own radar for being the best-in-class metadata, and we didn’t make the choice solely based on whether it had track radio data or not.
Uhhhh…music has gotten a major upgrade in the last year, if you ignore the one thing this thread is about (which I agree sucks, but you have to look at the big picture here).
You referenced the new Metadata in these two posts in Dec…
What gets me is you said that the meta you were getting your hands on finally, which powered AllMusic, was literally the “best-in-the-world”… but in the end, has less track specific meta than Gracenote had, leading to what was the best-in-class mixing algorithm getting junked.
Then why did you switch??? Or better yet, why can’t you switch back if the new meta isn’t as good?
Are you saying it did play a role in your decision and you consciously decided to throw out this feature? Now that you know how much it’s hurt our experience on your platform, would you consider switching back?
Cross-fading is great and all, a nice-to-have, but we NEVER would have traded the functionality of Plex Mix for it.
That’s not exactly right; Gracenote had opaque track data which powered Plex Mix. AllMusic has more actual user-accessible track metadata, and the combination of it + Musicbrainz is second-to-none, IMO (and I care deeply about this sort of stuff).
You’re again missing the point. Track radio wasn’t The Single Factor here. We switched because OVERALL (pluses and minuses) it was better.
Apples to Oranges; one is a player feature, the other is metadata.
I’m pretty sure I could easily be fooled by some kind of “Radio” that just starts with a particular track I want to hear.
Selecting a radio by genre, style, mood, or artist (even when I know all of those things) gives me no guarantee I will ever hear that particular track.
Just call it “what-ever-name you -choose” Radio, beginning with this track. 
