Plex Web App as a native client with hardware decoding.

So the Plex web app is great and all, but if i try and watch an avi i’ll get the ‘this server is not powerful enough to play this video’ message. So at the moment i have to use Plex Home Theatre/Player, which is a nightmare to use with cursor input.

Would it be possible to just have a new app that is basically just the web interface, but with the full format support of the current native apps? I question whether people should still be needing a full computer in their living rooms, and the new Plex Player app is hopeless, so maybe the HTPC apps are being phased out anyway?

I’ve been looking at other DLNA Clients for OS X, and it looks like VLC is the main one, but Plex doesn’t work with it.

@garagethrash the problem you are hitting is a matter of setup/media preparation.

AVI’s are NOT a stream-able format. If you were to convert your media to MP4/h.264/AAC you wouldn’t have this problem and could use a web browser as a general streaming device.

I’ve got scripts to do just this in the thread listed in my sig.

Carlo

@cayars said:
@garagethrash the problem you are hitting is a matter of setup/media preparation.

AVI’s are NOT a stream-able format. If you were to convert your media to MP4/h.264/AAC you wouldn’t have this problem and could use a web browser as a general streaming device.

I’ve got scripts to do just this in the thread listed in my sig.

Carlo

The files play fine on my Apple TV, phone, and computers when using the Plex apps. it’s just the plex web interface that struggles on some formats

As @cayars said, this is a file format/codec issue and doesn’t have anything to do with the web browser at all. If your media were in the format he suggested above, it likely would play on EVERY device you can use Plex clients on, including the Web app. The format @cayars suggested plays on almost every other Plex client app they make without transcoding in most cases.

Because it’s not in that format you are having issues with your media on that player. And will continue to have those issues as long as you don’t convert your media.

But, you know what, don’t take either his or my word for it. Run a test yourself. It’s not hard to do. Download Handbrake, take a single file that you know has problems, and convert it to MP4, H264, with high profile and an AAC stereo audio track.

Put it into it’s own, completely separate folder not already in a library on your PMS machine and then point a library at that folder and let Plex find it. Then try to play the converted file. I would bet you a cup of coffee or maybe even a beer that it works after this conversion.

And if it works, that tells you everything you need to know to fix your issues with all of the rest of your media.

IMO, Plex has placed entirely too much emphasis on transcoding and not enough on Direct Playing the media. Plex can convert the media to something that almost anything the clients can play, but this fixes it in people’s minds that they don’t have to worry about how they store their media. They just have to have it. In reality nothing could be further from the truth.

Preparing the media for Direct Play is as important as setting up PMS on a box that can handle the odd transcode, or having enough bandwidth to stream it or having the media your users want to view. In fact, IMO, it’s MORE important than all of those things. I’ve streamed to 5 local users simultaneously on a device that didn’t have enough power to transcode to even one single client. Because I prepped the media before I handed it to my PMS to stream.

It’s your call. Keep having the problems you are having, or run a test to see how it works. Start using your PMS smarter and not making it work harder. I know… You want to watch your media, you don’t want to have to worry about how this all works. So after you run this test, look into @cayars scripts and give them a whirl.

@garagethrash said:
So the Plex web app is great and all, but if i try and watch an avi i’ll get the ‘this server is not powerful enough to play this video’ message.
Would it be possible to just have a new app that is basically just the web interface, but with the full format support of the current native apps?

The web app, as the name implies, is running in the web browser. As such it can only use what the web browser supports. AVI is not among the widely supported video file formats which can be played in a web browser.

If you need mouse support, you either use a 3rd party Skin for PHT with mouse support or try the preview of Plex Media Player. These have the best DirectPlay support you can get.

I realise the web app cannot play avi files. And i realise re encoding all my avi files can ‘fix’ this issue (I’m not doing this). I’m just putting my hand up to say that a player for desktop with proper mouse and keyboard support would be great. e.g mouse seeking, keyboard shortcuts like PHT had (W for Watched/Unwatched), breadcrumbing in the UI, so ESC key isn’t needed to go back a page).

What’s wrong with the new Plex Media Player? I was under the impression that was more or less replacing the legacy PHT application, based on this post.

relevant quote:

Plex Home Theater is still available and open source. We’re no longer actively developing it and are focusing our efforts on making Plex Media Player the best experience possible. (We’ll continue to make bug fixes for PHT for now.)

Or the older windows client eve. :slight_smile:

Early 2021 clean-up: implemented (current generation desktop clients for Mac and Windows)