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Woah, peace and love, my brothers and sisters!
@TinywandererJay, I think your phrasing is coming off here a bit … abrasive (“major buggy” … “acts like a glorified cd player of yesteryear”) which is triggering some readers. We’re both new to each other; there are a ton of people here who use and love the app, you’re having some issues, let’s meet in the middle in friendly fashion and figure out how to introduce you properly to the app.
As far as I can tell here, there are two issues.
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It seems, as best I can tell, like you’re not getting loudness data computed for the initial set of albums you scan in, but you ARE getting it for any subsequent ones added. Can you verify this indeed seems to be the case?
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If you have Sweet Fades enabled, and you’re playing non-consecutive_ tracks (not an album, say) between two tracks with loudness data, you will get a fade. Technically speaking, this is an overlap of the end of song A with the start of song B. It is NOT a cross-fade. Sometimes the effect can be quite subtle, other times less so.
As for issue (1), my suspicion is it’s a regression in the server, which will be investigated. Any further clarifications or validations of the theory would be appreciated.
As for issue (2), now that you know that it’s overlapping ends and starts, pick 2 tracks which have loudness (show the waveform while playing), and add them one after the next (make a playlist, e.g.). After playing it, upload Plexamp logs and I’ll tell you what the overlap time was, which might help explain what you’re hearing vs what you think you should be hearing.
Make sense?
(Also, your device/OS details are probably useful as well.)
Makes sense to me, I will do what you asked tomorrow!
Thanks
You mention you added a Library with the “Def Leopard Test Album”.
Long thread, didn’t read all of it, but I see you now have the waveform, but are you just playing the Test Album?, Sweet Fades is ‘off” when playing and Album (wouldn’t want fades when playing an Album), so add a few more albums and then play a Station other than Album Station
Exactly. I get the sense that pips sometimes do not get the difference between sweet and cross fades. Once you get it working you see the 
and understand better…
There’s also the concept of gapless playback and what to expect when playing an album vs say a playlist… Discussed at length in the other thread…
Ok to make this easier Ill start over, Ill set up three different (folders) and then I will make sure I am "shuffling between them, as for “station” i am a bit lost as unless I missed something, I just have a pile of tracks. In my Hierachy a “folder” is an “album” or "compilation.
Let me get a new library together with some tracks showing the sound print, then Ill generate a log.
If your “albums” consist of tracks collected from various sources, artists, and albums you may find that loudness levelling doesn’t work for you.
I tend to agree, for all the “sleek looks” the app doesnt seem to be a fit for me. I am nt someone who drools over their pristine 45 record and wears $2000 headphones. I just like music, I spent lots of my years in the industry serving it to the people.
My biggest issue is even if this app is “analyzing” the songs, there is ABSOLUTELY no way to know where it is in that process.
I think I mistook Plexamp for a music player, that could playout a mix of music and make it safe to operate in a car, Indeed it seems to have the “look” but not the backing behind that look to do just that.
I am not tearing down audiophiles, in fact their very existence in a day and age when a severely compressed MP3 is “good enough” for most, well I think its cool that they hung around and hope their “gigantic” wave files of uncompressed true sound is still rocking their discerning ears.
I am most likely going to use plex for watching movies, indeed that is how it got its start.
I am fast closing on another app that may be able to do all this without “jumping through hoops” just to play my “simple collection of mp3s that is indeed collected from tons of sources and various bitrates and file formats”.
Make Sense
BTW the test library is still not showing any waveforms, even though I have clicked the “Analyze” button several times, but again absolutely no indication it did “anything”.
Oh one other thing, Plex Amp took that “Test library” and attached the same album art to 460 songs, a savage garden cover, it never even came close to identifying ANYTHING correctly, the entire list just says “various artist” in the artist field.
You have probably pointed it to the wrong folder. Structure is very important for Plex.
That’s another thing, when I go to add a library folder in Plex, It does not let me “drill down” to the exact folder, I can only go to the root folder of that drive, then I have to manually add the file folder path in the “folder” box, it does pick them up so it is seeing them.
Again so many hoops to jump through just to listen to some music, seems sort of “Hinky” to me (old movie reference)
I am fully willing to go through whatever steps ELan and the others want me to try, but if you watch that video I posted there is already an app that delivers powerful fades with no need for a server, no hoop jumping nothing,
I get it @TinywandererJay, Plex assumes you’re already maintaining a clean file and folder structure for it it work. If your primary goal is just to get fades for fades then maybe you’re right. If you want to take advantage of all the other awesome features, might be worth the pain. E.g. sonic analysis and accompanying enhancements, there’s nothing like it out there. Also, the ability to stream from any app on almost any device and have exactly the same library available is a powerful tool. I’d go through it. I personally went through days of making sure everything worked out using MediaMonkey even though I had a fairly organised library through iTunes. Good 
This mostly happens during deep analysis which is a scheduled task I believe… Again, should be in that other monster thread…
Yeah, I basically just want a music player that can playback my songs and mix them accordingly, and show me the right artist/title but I do not fault plex for getting the tracks wrong, I take some responsibility in that. Truth be told I have yet to find a software that can actually get them right. There was a software called “Speedy” back in the day, but it was proprietary for radio and it only worked when “ripping” a CD, I have not laid hands on a CD in years.
I again am willing to try to get it to work, but I find myself wondering if there is a point.
My primary use for this will be in a “Smart home” and another completely independent copy in my vehicle, but Plex cannot even do that as it relies on the server.
you guys have been most eye opening, I do appreciate the help
thanks again!
Yes, some people interpret gapless to be “remove the silent gaps between tracks” and it’s kind of the opposite of that 
I blame the person who originally called it gapless…
Elan, I agree for the masses the three terms can be confusing, when you described “Sweet fades” I envisioned the song starting to fade and then “softly” fading out as the other faded in. As for Gapless Playback I envisioned continuous playback with no silence in between tracks. In radio we used to call the point where the track “collapsed” the “segue point” and it was controlled by an inaudible tone that our systems recognized. We also used this system for the “intro ramp” timing and the “hook sell” of every track.
I have been using Plexamp all day just listening to the way it deals out the songs, it definitely has great separation, I have yet to hear a repeat yet, however without the “fades or mix points” its obviously not going to work for me.
I cannot stress enough that with the server holding the “baby” up, its a great system for what it does, but it would in no way be suitable for someone looking for the “heavy lifting” to be in a standalone unit.
I have been trying to convince myself I could live with the silence in between tracks, but no, I know there are systems out there that can do it so much better and with no reliance on a server to pull it off.
I’m confused here, the library creation lets you drill down as deep as you want.
Bottom line is, it doesn’t seem like Plex is a good fit for you (possibly due to some annoying bugs you ran into 
Happy to help diagnose further, or wish you well in your future music software needs.
And just to clarify, it has mix points, it computes them automatically based on “ramp out” and “ramp in” from the loudness data. Works beautifully in many cases…
With loudness computed and when not playing albums, you won’t hear silence. When playing albums it will play them “as god intended” which means when playing two consecutive live tracks you won’t hear silence between clapping, which is what most people want.
Elan I know Plexamp works, it just doesnt work for ME, Ill do a video on what I referred to as a problem in the file structures,
I understand it has mix points, I meant that they dont work for me and also that they need the SERVER to work, whereas my other application does it on the client side
Let me get a video together explaining more
It’s all good, I totally get it. I’m glad you found an app which does everything you need 
