Makes sense! I’ll admit I was being impatient and clicking every button in site!
Hi @darreln, the next release is out for desktop (mobile releases still pending) and opens up Sonic Sage to Tidal-only listeners like yourself 
Can a future update add a sonic sage playlist to “recently played”. Dont want to waste tokens in a list i want to play again
I know technically i can add the queue to a playlist but this is way more convenient
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You have to enter the API Key on each and every Plexamp Device individually (in my case 2x iPhone, 1x iPad, 2x Android Tablet, 2x Notebook, 3x Desktop) that’s a lot of work 
@elan Would be more convenient to store the API Key in my Plex Account Master Data (see Subscriptions / Payments / Other Services). Something for the backlog?
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I hate to be (again) an ungrateful complainer, but this looks strange, if I had Tidal I wouldn’t need Plexamp. Am I missing something?
Anyway, thanks?
Plexamp is not actually aimed at Tidal-only users.
But it is quite good at augmenting your local music library with Tidal content. Broadening your musical taste and introducing you to new music. If you want it.
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Wohoo! will check it out today!
Agreed, just way more work/moving parts 
It’s not giving me good results. I tried “Play forgotten songs of the 1970s” and “Play obscure songs of the 1970s” and “Play deep tracks from the 1970s” and every song that it output was a top 5 hit (“Dreams” by Fleetwood Mac, “Hot Blooded” by Foreigner, etc…)
I also tried “Play bands that sound like the Pixies, but don’t include any Pixies songs” and 5/10 songs were… Pixies songs.
It seems no matter what I try, no matter how much I tell it to play deep tracks, unpopular songs, and so forth… it only spits out the absolute most popular song from whatever band it outputs.
Very disappointing… I don’t see myself using Sonic Sage at all… it’s about as bad — maybe worse — as Spotify’s “Radio” function. Completely predictable, unoriginal, and doesn’t surface anything new or interesting even though my library has 6,000 albums and 80k+ songs.
The built-in Sonic Adventure, Artist Mix Builder, etc is 1000x better.
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For about half the prompts that I try, it outputs nothing. It sits there for a minute or two saying “building playlist…“ And then that disappears and there’s nothing left on the screen.
For instance “Make a playlist of music similar to Sparks” — nothing.
That’s odd,. When I try this in Dutch I get a list with defendable tracks. Can’t say the list is always spot on, but it always surprises me.
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Again, the Pixies request gave me in Dutch a list of tracks without the Pixies. Ok, you can argue about some choices.
OT: saw Pixies last month in Groningen😍
(Didn’t know Silversun pickups but I like them😊)
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Interesting… for Sparks as the input it does seem to be outputting the “top 5” most popular tracks for those bands in the playlist. I wish it was more diverse / eclectic / obscure, at least with some of the tracks. Otherwise I might as well listen to the New Wave station on SiriusXM.
Know what you mean. Wonder if AI can give that kind of insight yet. Don’t think so.
Here’s “Play obscure songs of the 1970s” with GPT4.
Here’s “Play bands that sound like the Pixies, but don’t include any Pixies songs” again with GPT4.
For at least some queries, GPT4 is much better.
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I love the AI explanatory sentence under the name of the song. Can this be shown on Now Playing screen as an option? We have lots of under utilized screen space on desktops.
We’ve chatted about it, yeah.
I seam to be a bit dim I created an account at Openai but can not seam to find a way of requesting an API Key. It all seams very confusing if you never used this before. Is ChatGPT and GPT-4 the same thing or is it 2 different Ai programs can you just one or the other or do you have to have API from both
With this being an experimental feature, it’s a bit rough around the edges.
You need only one API key for all OpenAI products, AFAIK.
GPT is the AI model which is powering ChatGPT. (among other things)
GPT-4 is just the 4th version of GPT.
Since it is the newest and most advanced (but also most demanding in terms of processing power and memory), it costs more credits to use than the previous version. That’s why you have to enable its use explicitly in Plexamp’s settings.
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Sorted Thanks for that.
What I did not get was, YOU have to create a secret API key in your openai account then copy that and paste into the Plexamp advanced settings, I guess to like Plex with chatGPT in openai.
Anyway all working now
