Transformers: War for Cybertron

The default plex meta data for these shows in borked:

https://www.themoviedb.org/tv/117682-transformers-war-for-cybertron-earthrise

https://www.themoviedb.org/tv/128255-transformers-war-for-cybertron-kingdom

https://thetvdb.com/series/transformers-war-for-cybertron#general

I get that TVDB and TMDB having different orders makes things more complicated, but if you have Episode ordering = The Movie Database. These shows will not pull correct meta data. the first two seasons (shows) are linked on the plex side so you can not pull meta data for the second one.

tmdb-128255
tmdb-100617

Return the same result in plex.

The only fix I could find for this was to change the episode ordering for this specific show to TVDB and update my library so they were one season. Their should be a way to allow my library to match themoviedba and have correct meta data

here is a similar report:
https://forums.plex.tv/t/transformers-war-for-cybertron-kingdom-merged-with-siege/912114

Unfortunately you CANNOT use tmdb episode ordering for that show. Its caused by the fact plex consolidates metadata across multiple sites and this show (along with a few others, like Monster) will not work because its very different between sites.

Transformers: War For Cybertron Trilogy (2020)
  plex://show/5e7362fdfc1a8d0040111196
  tv.plex.agents.nfo.series://show/tvdb_377694
  imdb://tt9789660
  tmdb://100617
  tmdb://128255
  tvdb://377694

The only solution you have is to use tvdb episode ordering with tvdb matching. Here is the show on my server …

… with the show using /Transformers: War For Cybertron Trilogy (2020) {tvdb-377694}/ as its folder path name.

Yup, that’s what I did, I’m make this post to hopefully get the plex meta data updated, It’s stupid that you can tell it to use TMDB, but then have it not work. IF they just want us using TVDB then have that be the only option.

Honestly, don’t think that will ever happen but I always hope to be proved wrong. They’d need to seriously rethink and refactor their consolidated metadata approach.

Regardless, it’ll be another mess when Netflix release, Monster: The Lizzie Borden Story in Sept so look for the slew of reports when that show drops …

There’s always the possibility that someone will create a custom metadata agent which pulls from one of the primary sources directly.

Like I said here Transformers: War for Cybertron: Kingdom merged with Siege - #5 by dokuro that’s not a solution, it’s a workaround.

It’s also a bad one. If the show was already previously matched & watched, which was the case me with this show then you lose status & history.

Don’t be so dismissive. It could very well be a solution for folks just trying to get the show to match in the first place. And who don’t want to rely on Plex’s native agents.

I can see an ecosystem where custom agents are available to fill the gaps where Plex’s leave something to be desired. It happened before.

It really just bothers me they let you use TMDB, but then not actually support it.

As much as I’m in alignment with dokuro frustrations, I’m in agreement with you that the workaround solution to Netflex’s Transformers: War for Cybertron & Netflix’s Monster shows may be just fine for many users, especially if they don’t care as much about retaining watch history stats (which does suck that the workaround doesn’t allow you to retain such info).

Regarding the custom agents, this is most likely going to be the best long term solution to such scenarios. I’m currently trying to see if I can create a custom provider-agent to resolve an issue I have where the native “Plex NFO” Provider-Agents will not display Plex Discover casting credits if your NFO files contain cast related nodes. My custom provider is attempting to resolve this by ignoring the cast related nodes when scanning NFO files, and also including tag nodes in the Collection field where the tag ends in " Collection" so that when using a custom agent it’ll combine features I like from the default “Plex Movie” & “Plex Series” provider-agents and the “Plex NFO Movie” & “Plex NFO Series” provider-agents, along with an additional tag import feature. If I can get this working, it’ll take care of a few things I’d wish the built in provider-agents would do, without waiting around for an enhancement I personally want that most likely will never materialize.

A similar approach using a custom provider-agent would probably solve the Netflix series issues as well.

Or plex could just fix their bad meta data.

lol, I completely agree with you here. Yet, in the mean time, if I get this working, I’ll have a better understanding of how custom provider-agents work, and I’ll have an agent that does EXACTLY what I want. :slightly_smiling_face: