TV plays 4K HDR for a bit and then turn it off

Hello!

I have some 4K files (HEVC Main 10 HDR) When they start playing on my TV I see the HDR notification on top-right corner. Every seems to go well but after a few minutes the video pauses and when the image comes back it has HDR disabled (colors are less saturated). Looks just like when you open an HDR file on a non-HDR screen.

I’ve managed to get some logs that might be related to this problem

Mar 21, 2019 22:40:21.296 [0x1508fdfef700] Error — Throttle: timed out trying to read chunk -1
Mar 21, 2019 22:40:24.152 [0x1508fdfef700] Error — Throttle: timed out trying to read chunk -1
Mar 21, 2019 22:40:24.341 [0x1508fcde6700] Error — [FFMPEG] - Cannot load libcuda.so.1

Mar 21, 2019 22:40:24.341 [0x1508fcde6700] Warning — avcodec_open2 returned -1313558101 for encoder 'h264_nvenc'
Mar 21, 2019 22:40:24.351 [0x1508fcde6700] Error — [FFMPEG] - No VA display found for device: /dev/dri/renderD128.

Mar 21, 2019 22:40:24.352 [0x1508fcde6700] Error — [FFMPEG] - Cannot load libcuda.so.1

Mar 21, 2019 22:40:24.352 [0x1508fcde6700] Warning — avcodec_open2 returned -1313558101 for encoder 'h264_nvenc'
Mar 21, 2019 22:40:24.352 [0x1508fcde6700] Error — [FFMPEG] - No VA display found for device: /dev/dri/renderD128.

Mar 21, 2019 22:40:24.354 [0x1508febf5700] Error — Failed to delete session directory (boost::filesystem::remove: Directory not empty: "/config/Plex Media Server/Cache/Transcode/Sessions/plex-transcode-8o54ak89hnkduqdlcsot2p76-377fd138-28f6-4972-932b-6a6b2a1c7aba")

Anyone got any idea what’s going on here? If I play a 1080 movie with no HDR then everything works just fine.

Thank you!

Server Version#: 1.15.2.793
Player Version#: Plex for LG 3.90.1 (WebOS 4.10.31)
TV: LG OLED65C8PLA
Doing direct play on video and audio

for any number of reasons, the stream is switching from direct play to transcoding down to 1080 (thus loosing both 4k and HDR).

the logs indicate that you do not have hardware assisted transcoding, so that causes your cpu to convert the 4k, and which is extremely process intensive and your server cannot keep up.

most smart tvs cannot direct play HD audio which is the typical culprit.

subtitles also can cause problems and make plex transcode.

you can make sure subtitles are disabled, and choose a different audio stream (ie dolby digital/dtx 5.1).

this may or may not be helpful @ Plex, 4k, transcoding, and you - aka the rules of 4k - a FAQ


Thanks for your reply! From what I can see here the TV is able to play both video and audio directly.

Not entirely sure why it’s changing to direct to transcoding but I should have plenty of power in the server (20 cores and 40 threads available).

yup, sounds pretty powerful

I would start by disabling subtitles and see if that fixes it

then I would start looking at the network, most smart tvs only have 100mbit ethernet, and 4k rips can exceed that.

Wireless can work, but typically isn’t consistently fast enough to prevent buffering.

in that server status window should be a bandwidth graph, if it is flattens out around ~100mbit and still buffers/switches, it looks like you may be exceeding the tv ethernet connection.

if the bw graph is all over the place and you are on wireless, then sounds like your wireless is not keeping up.

If your plex client settings has ‘automatically adjust quality’ I would disable that too, and make sure remote and local quality is original and/or maximum.

Alright so I’ve tried disabling the subtitles and it seems to be working fine now.

However I’m unable to disable the subtitles on Plex for LG system-wide. I have to disable the subtitle every time I get into a new movie/show.

Also, should this be considered a bug?

Thanks!

  • sweet
  • you can control default subtitles @ https://app.plex.tv/desktop#!/settings/account > audio & subtitle settings (this affects all clients obviously)
  • not exactly, there are different kinds of subtitles, some subtitles/clients can be direct play, some clients/subs must have them burned in (ie transcoded in)

so depending on what your client can direct play, and what subs you have (or can get), will determine when/why the resulting video is transcoded

Thanks for the info!

I have to say that in the scene there wasn’t any subtitles showing up, but I guess the fact that these were enable is enough to trigger this. However why is transcoding at 1080 without HDR instead of 4K with HDR if I have plenty of power to do so :thinking:

plex does not transcode TO 4k, and it does not transcode into x265

so the only option to transcode into is 1080 or less.

nor does it do any color conversion, which is why you lose the hdr.

ahhh damn! thought it was just a matter of selection resolution and features (HDR, etc). Thanks so much for your help!

OFFTOPIC: do you work at Plex?

nope. just a regular user like anyone else.

moderators/ninja, and plex team members will have it next to their name, so you can see who is official or not.

you should get paid haha, really appreciate all your help and time spend <3

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