@A_Preston said:
I ABSOLUTELY OBJECT to data collection aka “telemetry” or “metrics” of any kind, period!
That’s largely already been resolved.
The furtherest I could roll back the server apps on my Mac and still have HVEC playback is 1.7.2.x.bla.bla
But it absolutely will not function unless I log into YOUR servers first. That is BULLSHIT.
Are you sure? Core functionality (IE, anything not requiring a PlexPass shouldn’t require login)
Why the mandatory log in? There is no need in the universe to force me to log in to your system just so I can access my stuff on my lan within my own home.
Plex uses this connection to validate you have a PlexPass. It’s a subscription service primarily, there aren’t many good ways to validate subscriptions that work well.
BTW, what’s the real point of the Plex DVR if it can’t run live TV to my Rokus but it can to my iPhone? Really, who watches anything on a cell phone with a 4" screen when they have a house full of 55" screens in every room? That’s stupid ! You can run live TV to my iPhone but not my Roku? BAH!! Done with you…
They brought the function to iPhone and Android first, then Apple TV and Android TV. More platforms I assume are on the way. As for who watches OTA TV broadcasts from a phone and not their TV? Well my TV has the ability to show me OTA TV already, I don’t need Plex for that. It’s useful to be able to continue watching a live broadcast when I have to leave home. Come Dine With Me omnibus Sundays in particular are good for this. Can still carry on with my life and not miss out 
Personally I am looking for another solution to stream my stuff to my Rokus that doesn’t require a mandatory always on connection to somewhere outside of my home, that doesn’t spy on me or require me to log into my own server through someone else’s servers first.
You can head over to Emby, but it also requires this for premium functions. If you find something else that fits the bill, please do share. There are lots of interested people.
From the other thread that got locked 4 mins before I was able to post this:
@elan said:
@drinehart said:
@elan - Will these changes include clients as well? If these changes are limited to PMS only, the information from clients may still be shared. Will we still get to opt on on clients going forward?
Quite honestly, still discussing, but the thing which seems to make the most sense is a cloud-based option which applies everywhere.
This is very gratifying to hear. I’ve seen the toggle on clients get re-enabled through updates in the past, having that managed on the cloud side is good. Client-specific is also worth keeping, especially for users who opt out of all of the cloud services and only want to use Plex on their LANs though.
@elan said:
@“Frank R.” said:
However, please hire a good Community Manager. Again you’re truly dreadful at this. And your loss of revenue and all of this ill will is all squarely on one person. You.
Appreciate the feedback.
Directly engaging our community with direct talk and humor–and not just spouting canned PR lines–has been my go-to strategy for the last decade with Plex, and it’s generally served me well.
Please keep it up. Humanising is definitely preferable to parroting the same canned response over and over again. That said, it doesn’t really matter which way you go, people will complain either way. Nectar’s community manager tried that on Facebook when they announced partnering with the Daily Mail, which triggered a lot of people, and resulted in backlash to the seemingly tone-deaf PR people parroting the same lame response over and over. You can’t please all of the people all of the time
@hexluther said:
Read the privacy policy letter from Kevin, keeping careful attention on two sets of keywords:
“personal content” (what justifies personal content?)
“playback” (so only when something is played are the opt-out settings you set are adhered to – for any other function, such as scrapping, adding, indexing, reorganization, “maintenance”, etc. metadata is generated and sent?)
As much as I’d like to believe Plex as this point, they have to EARN it back. Trust and respect is EARNED, not freely given (well trust is at times, but I had already given them trust, now they have to earn it back). Or perhaps Plex of yesteryear is gone, never to return again.
I read the privacy policy, those terms are clearly defined.
Personal content:
Depending on your choice of how to use our Services, your personal content may be stored on your personal hardware (“Personal Local Content”) or stored in the cloud (“Personal Cloud Content”, collectively, “Personal Content”). For your Personal Content, except in the limited circumstances described below, we do not collect filenames or content titles of your Personal Content.
Playback and other than playback:
Metadata for Personal Content. Except for certain exceptions such as for Personal Cloud Content, Third-Party Control and Playback Mechanisms, and other similar services, as described below, we do not collect and store metadata (information about the specific file, cover art, subtitles, running length, etc.) for Personal Content stored on your personal Plex Media Server. However, your Plex Media Server may anonymously send us filenames or other identifiers for your Personal Content for the sole purpose of providing metadata back to your personal Plex Media Server. You may disable this metadata matching capability.
Anyway, thanks all. This thread has been interesting reading. And thanks again to @elan to his continued patience and good humour dealing with numerous personal attacks.
