Why are mood radios based on album moods not track moods?

[EricD1973]

I was playing some mood radios in Plexamp today and I noticed they are based on the moods of albums not tracks. Shouldn’t they be based on track moods? Those moods are captured. If I pick “fun” radio it will give me songs from a “fun” album. But…the songs from that album aren’t necessarily all “fun”. Just curious how this works.

Edit…just to provide an example. Brooding radio gave me Sultans of Swing from Dire Straits Live at the BBC. That album is tagged as “brooding” but the song isn’t. I would think that brooding radio should play brooding songs.

[elan]

track mood data is highly incomplete

[EricD1973]

That explains it I suppose but my tracks all have mood info. I guess not reliable?

[thecodemonk]

How did you get your tracks to have moods? Most of mine don’t. It seems a lot of my music is not getting tagged properly with genre or moods, even albums.

[elan]

Few tracks have moods, and they aren’t used. Artists and albums have moods, as long as you’re running new music system and have “mainstream” music (read: anything you can find on AllMusic.com).

When in doubt, refresh metadata for an artist or album and see if you get moods.

[thecodemonk]

Ok, thanks for the reply. I just picked up a lifetime pass a couple days ago, so trying to get my collection all straight.

[elan]

thanks for your support, and welcome!

[EricD1973]

Just want to update this topic…

It appears as though Plex is tagging Albums with a combination of all moods for each track on the album, instead of the Album moods on Allmusic.

Also, tracks on allmusic do have Moods, but Plex appears to either not be pulling them at all, or pulling different ones per track.

[elan]

Just picked a random album and the album moods look fine.

We are pulling track moods as well.

If you’re seeing something different, we’d need a specific example.

[EricD1973]

Ben Folds Five – Whatever and Ever Amen

Which looks like all possible moods for all tracks on the album. Doesn’t match Allmusic at any rate. And track “Kate” has no song Mood tags at all, while on Allmusic the tags look accurate.

[TeknoJunky]

do you have ‘prefer local metadata’ enabled in your music library advanced options ?

[elan]

@EricD1973

Which looks like all possible moods for all tracks on the album. Doesn’t match Allmusic at any rate.

yeah, that is weird, mine shows slightly different mood tags, but also not matching allmusic. i’ve asked internally.

[EricD1973]

Thanks. I tried with and without prefer local metadata selected.