Why was SEE numbering for TV episodes dropped?

In the most recent update it looks like TV episodes named using filenames like ‘101 - Episode 1’ don’t get matched anymore, so I look at the release notes, which state

  • (Scanner) Files named using the uncommon “SEE” format are no longer matched by default; please use the .plexmatch feature to handle these files (#13985)
  • (Scanner) Files with names containing a 3- or 4-digit standalone episode number are now matched correctly by default (#13985)

Which seems directly contradictory?

Regardless, why drop this ‘uncommon’ format all of a sudden? My entire library uses this system, and asking users who prefer this to create .plexmatch files every time they add a series is adding a lot of complexity where none existed.

Server Version#: 1.30.2.6563

Use a renaming program. These are free and a lot faster than trying to make plexmatch files

For tv shows using the TVDB show order

This does tv shows and movies

TV show format
Show Name: ${showTitle} (${showYear}) {tvdb-${showTvdb}}
Season: Season ${seasonNr2}
Episode Name: ${showTitle} (${showYear}) s${seasonNr2}e${episodeNr2} ${episode.title}


Movie format
Folder format: ${title} (${year})
File format ${title} (${year}) {imdb-${imdb}}

I have a renamer, but it’s frustrating to have to change naming conventions after a decade without any reason given. SEE isn’t all that uncommon in production environments.

SEE naming was never officially supported (however common or not it is in certain environments).

The harsh truth is: If you use some custom naming schema you can get lucky… until you don’t.

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SEE was dropped due to conflicting with absolute episode numbers. You can still get it to match by using the .plexmatch file. Although using a renamer might be easier.

Renaming is easy, but it seems to force an intro detect on each renamed file, which is going to take…a while, for 9800 files.

I’ve obviously lost this one, but I’m pretty bummed about it. Absolute episode numbers shouldn’t really matter if you’ve got a season folder structure. Appreciate the official response though.

Do you have the episodes in their own episode folder? If you are also renaming the folder then yeah, that will cause PMS to think these are new files. If you don’t rename the folder but only the file, that should not trigger a new intro detection.

I have episodes of a season in a Season # folder, not renaming any of those folders but running a rename on every SEE file to SxxEyy – they’re all triggering intro detects.

Could you reproduce this for 1 show, maybe something with just 1 season, then get me your server logs.

You bet. Renamed one series, only library change was SEE to SxxEyy, ran a library scan, log attached.
Plex Media Server Logs_2023-01-13_00-53-42.zip (4.0 MB)

Thanks. I see it is rescanning for intros. I’m looking into this.

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