Best format for ripping DVD content

Hi, I have been using Plex for about a year and I love it. Can't beat the price either !

 

My question is, what is the best format for ripping video content from DVD's. I have a large DVD collection and I have been using MakeMkv to save them as .mkv files. I have about 200 saved so far and I just don't think .mkv is the best format for me. I am not a big quality freak, I mean I don't care if everything is blu-ray quality or 1280p. I just want decent quality but a smaller size, maybe less than 2GB per movie. Mkv ranges anywhere from 4GB to 7GB which is a bit extreme. I have 2 1TB drives almost full. I have tried Handbrake a while back and I don't remember how that worked out, I do remember it took long per movie. That's one great thing about Makemkv, it only takes about 10 minutes to save it to disk. 

 

I know this is a question and topic with many opinions, and it's hard to get a straight answer, but I am interested in others opinions and suggestions. 

 

Thanks for your help !

 

Mark

Hi, I have been using Plex for about a year and I love it. Can't beat the price either !

My question is, what is the best format for ripping video content from DVD's. I have a large DVD collection and I have been using MakeMkv to save them as .mkv files. I have about 200 saved so far and I just don't think .mkv is the best format for me. I am not a big quality freak, I mean I don't care if everything is blu-ray quality or 1280p. I just want decent quality but a smaller size, maybe less than 2GB per movie. Mkv ranges anywhere from 4GB to 7GB which is a bit extreme. I have 2 1TB drives almost full. I have tried Handbrake a while back and I don't remember how that worked out, I do remember it took long per movie. That's one great thing about Makemkv, it only takes about 10 minutes to save it to disk. 

I know this is a question and topic with many opinions, and it's hard to get a straight answer, but I am interested in others opinions and suggestions. 

Thanks for your help !

Mark

MakeMKV is just extracting the audio and video codec's and leaving them "as is" which is why it is fast, and also why the files are large (this has nothing to do with them being in an .mkv container)

Handbrake actually converts the video and/or audio codecs into more efficient codecs, which is why it produces much smaller files and also why it takes longer. (it'll still produce .mkv's, just much smaller ones due to the more modern codec's used within them)

Personally, I run all my DVD's through handbrake, I just schedule up a bunch of conversions and leave them overnight.

There is no right answer here, there are only opinions - your best bet is to try both methods and see what works for you.

There is a a nice freeware program called Freemake that works very well and is also fast.

I like it better then Handbrake because it had move options and was as good in quality.

freemake dot com

I have Freemake video converter, I use it to convert videos for my android phone. Do you convert the DVD to .avi with it ? I wonder if it is faster to save the DVD to hard drive as mkv first then use either handbrake or freemake ?

Handbrake likes CPUs.  The more cores the better.  I can rip a 2 hour movie to H.264 with fairly high settings in about 35 minutes with my AMD FX8350.  I can do it in 15 minutes or less using the standard High preset that comes with Handbrake.

Another thing you can try to increase the speed is get the Handbrake preview version that uses your GPU.

I attached my presets if you want to try them.  The DVD - High creates about a 1 GB file for a 2 hour movie.  

I just tried converting 2 of my mkv using your DVD-High preset. It took almost 4 hours per movie. Is that normal ?

I just tried converting 2 of my mkv using your DVD-High preset. It took almost 4 hours per movie. Is that normal ?

If you have a slow CPU, yep.

I dump everything to my hand drive with AnyDVD and AnyDVD Ripper. I then us Handbrake to rip down to M4V with dual audio tracks. I like MKV better, but I use iPads and other devices which play MP$ natively so this is easier.

The Rokoding site (http://roku.yt1300.com/) has a great rundown for Handbrake settings that work great with Plex and Roku. I was using just High Profile with Constant Framerate and Constant Quality at 18. It looked great, I tried the Rokoding settings last week and I've been just as happy with a slightly smaller file.

The Freemake program is just as fast as Handbrake i think it was faster but only a minute or two.

The nice thing about freemake is it can remove the black bar better then handbrake and it can join multiple files into one output file.

It supports many more A/V formats then Handbrake.

Handbrake is a nice program and so is freemake as both are free the cost is right.

I just ripped over 1000 DVD's and tried many rippers, in the end i used freemake the most, it was my standard.

If it had trouble with a DVD i would try handbrake and if handbrake had any trouble i would use DVDfab.

I used Pavtube DVD ripper. It works fast and well. You can choose mp4 or rmvb format.

I dump everything to my hand drive with AnyDVD and AnyDVD Ripper. I then us Handbrake to rip down to M4V with dual audio tracks. I like MKV better, but I use iPads and other devices which play MP$ natively so this is easier.

The Rokoding site (http://roku.yt1300.com/) has a great rundown for Handbrake settings that work great with Plex and Roku. I was using just High Profile with Constant Framerate and Constant Quality at 18. It looked great, I tried the Rokoding settings last week and I've been just as happy with a slightly smaller file.

Curious, why not use CloneDVD Mobile?  I've had it for about 6-7 years and I always go back and try Handbrake only to discover it's much slower than CloneDVD Mobile.  Heck, that software feels way too slow for me at 20-25 minutes to rip a DVD to MP4.  An hour with Handbrake, to me, is just too darn long.

Curious, why not use CloneDVD Mobile?  I've had it for about 6-7 years and I always go back and try Handbrake only to discover it's much slower than CloneDVD Mobile.  Heck, that software feels way too slow for me at 20-25 minutes to rip a DVD to MP4.  An hour with Handbrake, to me, is just too darn long.

Both apps use FFMPEG.  If the setting are identical, they should both perform the same.  It is very difficult to get the correct settings in CloneDVD Mobile for anything other than a mobile display.  As it is named, it is made to convert for the very small screen.  If you plug the same parameters in Handbrake, you should get the same speed.

My goal is quality. If I can't play the end result in my home theater, then it is pointless for me to convert from the original. As a result I need a fast processor for the conversion.  There are no shortcuts.

FWIW, I love Slysoft.  I own many of their productions including CloneDVD, AnyDVD, and CloneCD (all with lifetime upgrades).  I did try CloneDVD Mobile and found it was not for me.

This is quite an old post so apologies for opening thread again  :)  I am interested by the comments about Freemake Video Convertor. I have used DVD Shrink for years because of the ability to only rip the main movie leaving out subtitles and extras, however it is limited to MPG output only cannot rip DVDs and is out of support. Can you select only the main movie in Freemake and how do you identify this from the DVD file structure?

Fozzie

Here comes one optimized video and audio presets for your reference.

Normal Settings

Format: MP4

Video Codec: x264

Framerate: Same as source

Constant quality: 50-70% depending on how much loss you are willing to take for size..

Anamorphic: Strict (Loose is also ok, maybe better for space concerns)

Keep aspect ratio: Off

Crop: Auto

Audio Settings

Track 1: AC3 passthrough (This setting maintains compatibility with other devices like AppleTV/PS3.)

Track 2: AAC with Stereo mixdown 96 bitrate

But the DVD nees to be copied and streamed from hard disk to Plex with a DVD ripping app.

This is quite an old post so apologies for opening thread again  :)  I am interested by the comments about Freemake Video Convertor. I have used DVD Shrink for years because of the ability to only rip the main movie leaving out subtitles and extras, however it is limited to MPG output only cannot rip DVDs and is out of support. Can you select only the main movie in Freemake and how do you identify this from the DVD file structure?

Fozzie

Don't know about freemake as I've never used it, but you can select just the main movie fine in MakeMkv (and handbrake for that matter). I'm sure Freemake gives you a list of the titles as well so would probably do the same thing. Pretty much all modern rippers will do this.

I haven't heard DVD Shrink in years. :)

Personally, I just leave them in MKV. It's simpler and I've never quite figured out handbrake. MakeMKV get it all straight and all I need is the storage space. I would personally rather spend a tad more on the storage and keep it simple than go through the mess of handbrake.

You can output mkv files from handbrake as well you realize (which is what I do)? I use handbrake to get a more efficient video codec (h264). I generally keep the audio track the way it is.

Content matching the following can usually be Direct Played:

  • Container: MP4
  • Video Encoding: H.264
  • Audio Encoding: AAC
  • Bitrate: 20Mbps or lower

So it's better you could save DVD content to H.264 MP4 with your dvd tool, such as DVDAid.

Of course you can just use the MakeMKV output. The Universal preset in Handbrake is pretty good for reducing the file size without reducing quality. If you want to reduce further, you could use h265 instead of h264. If instead you want faster encoding, you can use H.264 (Intel QSV) instead of just H.264. All of these options will produce a video of about equal quality. The difference will be how long it takes to convert, and the final final size. If you are using the 10.3 version of Handbrake you can reduce the size further with HE-AAC instead of AAC (avcodec). This was dropped from later versions. You could also not include the AC3 passthru. I personally include the passthru, as I like a small file size, but I also like the option to reprocess the audio later without further reduction in quality.

Handbrake was working pretty well for me for a while, but now I’m getting DRM protection error messages. So as a de-crypting device, handbrake is not so good.