I got offered the 50% discount but I was on vacation at the time and didn’t get to it until it had passed. Too bad because I would have bought it. All I really want is the home users feature and maybe the ability to play trailer, but that’s not worth $150. Personally, I don’t really think it’s worth $75.
They need to make more features plex pass only and keep exclusive to new devices for longer periods. They did not even bother making the new Apple TV app plexpass for x time, they just made it available. For any of the people saying 150 is too expensive and 75 is not, I hope you were not using plex when it was still 75 otherwise no excuse.
I want to support the devs but I won’t using nearly enough of the Plex Pass features for me to make it worth it. I would totally buy it on sale though since I’m a sucker for deals so if any Plex sales team members are reading this you know what to do.
Same here. I only use the offline sync functionality. I would love a one-time discount offer to purchase. Currently I am month to month when I need the functionality
I had no problems paying the annual membership fee, but yeah $150 all at once is a lot. I don’t mind the amount, just all at once. Plex, if you had an “installment fee” plan for that - like pay $50 for 3 months to get the lifetime pass - that would be appreciated. Just an idea.
I’am new to plex & HTPC. Also planning to buy the lifetime pass but $150 is too much for people like me in my country (Indonesia).
I will definitely buy it if it’s $100 or less.
@sha256 said:
I had no problems paying the annual membership fee, but yeah $150 all at once is a lot. I don’t mind the amount, just all at once. Plex, if you had an “installment fee” plan for that - like pay $50 for 3 months to get the lifetime pass - that would be appreciated. Just an idea.
So, why don’t you do that plan yourself. Put aside $50 a month for 3 months then pay for a lifetime subscription.
I just picked your post to respond to after reading this thread (I have been a Plex Pass Lifetime since the first day it was offered so I have always ignored this thread) and I don’t understand it. If you can pay $XX for three or four months, put that aside for three or four months yourself and pay for a lifetime pass.
A post from back in Feb said “Honestly, I don’t have $150 to spend on plex. If it was $99 sure, I’d bite.”
So, put the $99 aside, then six months put another $50. Of course later on in the post he said - “I would like to support plex but not for $150.” so perhaps he really doesn;t want to pay full price, just using the “I don’t have $150 to spend on Plex” as a way out.
And then @dijedodol says
“I’am new to plex & HTPC. Also planning to buy the lifetime pass but $150 is too much for people like me in my country (Indonesia).
I will definitely buy it if it’s $100 or less.”
Same thing. If you can afford $100 now, put that money aside and then in 6 months, put aside the rest. Or put aside $8.33 a month for 6 months and combine it with the $100 you have now.
Sorry to sound so harsh but do you people know how to save and budget? If you can afford $100 now, you can budget and save and afford $150 in 6-12 months.
Have a great day!
Well said @rsava I set it up on my PC and then bought the lifetime pass about 12hours later lol. If you can drop $100 on it right now, then surely getting another $50 would only take a payslip or two. And if you cant, then maybe you shouldn’t even be looking at the monthly subscription, let alone the lifetime.
If out of the blue I received an email offering lifetime premium for half the price, I would buy it. That´s that.
@rsava said:
@sha256 said:
I had no problems paying the annual membership fee, but yeah $150 all at once is a lot. I don’t mind the amount, just all at once. Plex, if you had an “installment fee” plan for that - like pay $50 for 3 months to get the lifetime pass - that would be appreciated. Just an idea.So, why don’t you do that plan yourself. Put aside $50 a month for 3 months then pay for a lifetime subscription.
I just picked your post to respond to after reading this thread (I have been a Plex Pass Lifetime since the first day it was offered so I have always ignored this thread) and I don’t understand it. If you can pay $XX for three or four months, put that aside for three or four months yourself and pay for a lifetime pass.
The problem, though, @rsava, is that we have to keep paying for the monthly or yearly memberships while we do that budgeting. Using the strategy you describe, you have to factor in the fact that as I’m saving up and putting money away each month for the lifetime pass, I’m still paying for the plex pass I actually am using right now, be it monthly or yearly.
If plex would just let us buy in installments, then they’re not “double dipping” off my credit card, which is what they’re doing - figuratively, not literally - by needing to pay for two memberships at once. See what I mean?
@sha256 said:
@rsava said:
@sha256 said:
I had no problems paying the annual membership fee, but yeah $150 all at once is a lot. I don’t mind the amount, just all at once. Plex, if you had an “installment fee” plan for that - like pay $50 for 3 months to get the lifetime pass - that would be appreciated. Just an idea.So, why don’t you do that plan yourself. Put aside $50 a month for 3 months then pay for a lifetime subscription.
I just picked your post to respond to after reading this thread (I have been a Plex Pass Lifetime since the first day it was offered so I have always ignored this thread) and I don’t understand it. If you can pay $XX for three or four months, put that aside for three or four months yourself and pay for a lifetime pass.The problem, though, @rsava, is that we have to keep paying for the monthly or yearly memberships while we do that budgeting. Using the strategy you describe, you have to factor in the fact that as I’m saving up and putting money away each month for the lifetime pass, I’m still paying for the plex pass I actually am using right now, be it monthly or yearly.
If plex would just let us buy in installments, then they’re not “double dipping” off my credit card, which is what they’re doing - figuratively, not literally - by needing to pay for two memberships at once. See what I mean?
No, not at all.
You don’t have to pay for two at once, you choose to pay for your Plex pass on a monthly/yearly basis. You can stop paying monthly or yearly and put that money aside. They would not be “double dipping” anything. You choose to do that for instant gratification and then choose to come here and whine about it.
It is called sacrifice.
It is called budgeting.
I just don’t think you’re quite getting it, @rsava. Meaning no offense, but this is why people are asking for an installment plan. It allows people to make a budget by saying “I am paying for xx% of my plex lifetime membership this month.”
Do you tell people that they should only pay for cars and houses 100% upfront in cash, too? Sure, this isn’t nearly as large a purchase as that, but look at phones - they’re $100-700 and have installment plans through their carriers.
I’m just saying that you can have both a proper installment plan, and still be able to budget. Please don’t look down on people just because they don’t have the same amount of up-front money as you.
No, I don’t think you get it. It is not Plex’s responsibility to setup a “payment plan” for you. I did not always have “up-front” money, still paid cash for most things and I would never pay a monthly fee for a Plex Pass. I would do without until I had enough for a lifetime. Plex is free to use if you do not have a Plex Pass.
In addition, where you say - "Meaning no offense, but this is why people are asking for an installment plan. It allows people to make a budget by saying “I am paying for xx% of my plex lifetime membership this month.” - use Plex for free and budget the money yourself. Do you really need someone else to do that for you?
As far as cars, from Nov 2105 - Jan 2016 I had to replace all 3 of my cars. I paid cash for all of them. I am now putting money aside (budgeting) every month back into my car fund.
My wife and I worked our tails off to pay our mortgage early (which , BTW, your analogy is asinine, no offense, but comparing a $500,000 home or a $30,000 car to a $150 Plex subscription shows you have no concept of money). We scrimped and saved for our boys to have the best - all paid with cash. I also pay cash for phones, I never pay in installments. Then put that “installment” money aside until I can buy new phones (4 for my family). Sometimes that means we have to wait longer to replace phones but big deal, we don’t pay the installments and we buy the previous years release so we are not paying top dollar.
We just recarpeted our entire home, painted the entire interior, purchased new all blinds - all cash. We didn’t go out and pay installments that cost more money. (Oh, and when I replaced my roof 6 years ago - cash. I also got a discount for paying cash, just like with 2 of my cars.)
The only things you NEED to have are clothing, food, electricity, water, shelter and maybe - depending on where you live - a car. Everything else is a luxury and if you would do some sacrificing now, you can have all the things you want later.
As Dave Ramsey says - live like no one else now so later you can live like no one else. I prefer to let my money work for me instead of working to earn someone else’s money.
You have a great day!
(Oh, and you are presenting arguments why I am wrong but I am the one who can afford to pay cash for a lifetime pass upfront and all those other things with cash and you are the one who can’t [at least that is the impression I get since you want them to make a payment plan for you]. Not looking down on you but who probably has the right idea?)
@rsava said:
No, I don’t think you get it. It is not Plex’s responsibility to setup a “payment plan” for you. I did not always have “up-front” money, still paid cash for most things and I would never pay a monthly fee for a Plex Pass. I would do without until I had enough for a lifetime. Plex is free to use if you do not have a Plex Pass.
In addition, where you say - "Meaning no offense, but this is why people are asking for an installment plan. It allows people to make a budget by saying “I am paying for xx% of my plex lifetime membership this month.” - use Plex for free and budget the money yourself. Do you really need someone else to do that for you?As far as cars, from Nov 2105 - Jan 2016 I had to replace all 3 of my cars. I paid cash for all of them. I am now putting money aside (budgeting) every month back into my car fund.
My wife and I worked our tails off to pay our mortgage early (which , BTW, your analogy is asinine, no offense, but comparing a $500,000 home or a $30,000 car to a $150 Plex subscription shows you have no concept of money). We scrimped and saved for our boys to have the best - all paid with cash. I also pay cash for phones, I never pay in installments. Then put that “installment” money aside until I can buy new phones (4 for my family). Sometimes that means we have to wait longer to replace phones but big deal, we don’t pay the installments and we buy the previous years release so we are not paying top dollar.
We just recarpeted our entire home, painted the entire interior, purchased new all blinds - all cash. We didn’t go out and pay installments that cost more money. (Oh, and when I replaced my roof 6 years ago - cash. I also got a discount for paying cash, just like with 2 of my cars.)
The only things you NEED to have are clothing, food, electricity, water, shelter and maybe - depending on where you live - a car. Everything else is a luxury and if you would do some sacrificing now, you can have all the things you want later.
As Dave Ramsey says - live like no one else now so later you can live like no one else. I prefer to let my money work for me instead of working to earn someone else’s money.You have a great day!
(Oh, and you are presenting arguments why I am wrong but I am the one who can afford to pay cash for a lifetime pass upfront and all those other things with cash and you are the one who can’t [at least that is the impression I get since you want them to make a payment plan for you]. Not looking down on you but who probably has the right idea?)
This man has the right idea. There’s barely any downside to stopping paying for Plex Pass for a few months to save the extra money towards a lifetime discount. I paid $75 a few years ago and it’s paid off for sure.
First of all paying installments on a phone costs you exactly $0 more than paying cash. There are no (major) carriers that charge interest on the phone installment plans. The installment rate is the retail price of the phone divided by 24. Second, it does not cost Plex any more to charge you $5 a month for 30 months and then stop than it does for them to charge you $150 once. Basically what they are HOPING for is that you’ll pay the $5 a month for a while to try it out, forget about it for several months (since a $5 charge on your card every month isn’t something a lot of people would gripe about or even really notice when reconciling bills), or buy an annual plan, AND THEN decide to pay the $150 - which absolutely is double dipping. It makes them a LOT more money that way (especially if you go monthly > annual > lifetime). I am very wary of paying for “lifetime” subscriptions because I’ve been burned more than a couple times by that (glaring at Sirius and Tivo). How do we know that after they take our money they won’t change the rules later on and tell us how tough the titty is? Or what if they go belly up? Or if they get acquired by a company that doesn’t believe in the “lifetime” model? Sorry, but he’s inadvertently made a point here. We should have the option of paying periodically, with money paid going toward the lifetime price.
I couldn’t care less about how the cell phone companies work. I don’t pay in installments for anything. Not sure why you barked on that since all I said was that I don’t pay in installments for phone. (Oh, and BTW, the old system of discounted phones for a 2 year contract actually means you are paying more for your phone now. Why don’t you go b*tch and whine to them about THAT. I wouldn’t need to becasue I never did THAT either. But then I am weird in that I have very few bills and lots of money leftover at the end of the month to put away. You know, paying cash for everything and all that …)
Doesn’t matter what it costs Plex, why should they do that if they don’t want to. If that is what you want a company to do, feel free to start one yourself and run it that way.
Everyone knows what the prices are so it is NOT double dipping. You make the decision to pay monthly or yearly. In return you get a month or year of service. You can make the decision to pay once. And, anyone who would go monthly>yearly>lifetime (as you state Plex is hoping for) deserves to be a poor person. They have no financial sense.
Who cares if you are wary of paying for a lifetime or not. That is your issue, and you should see a shrink about it.
The fact that you actually say “charge on your card every month isn’t something a lot of people would gripe about or even really notice when reconciling bills” proves you have no financial sense. I know where every single penny of my paycheck goes to - EVERY MONTH. I know what every charge on my CC statements are (which I pay off every month and reconcile to my budget). Just last month I questioned a hotel that charged my CC an extra 2 cents. Apparently the PMS (Popeety Management System) was down and the amount was hand keyed. I was right, because I keep track of every penny. If you don’t you will always be poor (not saying you don’t or that you are poor, just making a statement based on you stating that about “really notice when reconciling bills”).
Lastly, if you actually read the argument, it is this (because apparently you have not):
I had no problems paying the annual membership fee, but yeah $150 all at once is a lot. I don’t mind the amount, just all at once. Plex, if you had an “installment fee” plan for that - like pay $50 for 3 months to get the lifetime pass - that would be appreciated. Just an idea.
He is stating that he has no problem with the cost or a lifetime. He is stating that he would pay $50 a month for 3 months. So do he can do it himself (and don’t pay month to month so they aren’t “double dipping” as you erroneously state) and in 3 months he can have the $150. What part of that do you not understand?
But, let’s say that you still pay month to month. This is how it would work (and I can’t believe I really need to explain it so basically, but some people have no financial smarts at all, so…):
Jan 1 - you pay $4.99, put aside $50. Your subscription ends on Feb 1. You have $50 towards a lifetime.
Feb 1 - you pay $4.99, put aside $50. Your subscription ends on Mar 1. You have $100 towards a lifetime. You have used Plex for a month (Jan), which you paid the going rate for.
Mar 1 - On Mar 1, you take this months $50 and add it to the total after Feb. You now buy a lifetime. (Don’t forget to cancel the monthly on your credit card, set a reminder on your phone that you pay installments on since your financial prowess requires you to have reminders like that.) You have used Plex for another month (Feb), which you paid the going rate for.
Now you no longer need to pay the $4.99 a month.
It works the same for anyone who wants to pay for a lifetime but “can’t afford it” but still pays monthly. Just stop paying monthly and put that money towards a lifetime. You can still use Plex (it is free, as you know, since you do not have a Plex Pass).
So you used Plex for $4.99 a month for two months. Then you paid $150 that you BUDGETED and saved for to buy a lifetime. How did Plex double dip? The model is you pay monthly or yearly if you don’t have a lifetime. So you paid a KNOWN amount per month for a product for 2 months and in return received a KNOWN length of subscription. No hidden fees, no misdirection, no sleight of hand. Most of all, no “double dipping”.
It works the same for anyone who wants to pay for a lifetime but “can’t afford it” and still pays monthly. Just stop paying monthly and put that money towards a lifetime. You can still use Plex (it is free, as you know, since you do not have a Plex Pass).
Is that really that hard to understand?
LOL Wow. You’re truly a self righteous douchebag.
So just because someone doesn’t want to shell out $150 non refundable to try something out, and instead pays for a few months, then maybe decides to pay for a year without committing, they deserve to be poor because they have no financial sense??? LOL. Ok Mr. Condescending Dick. And FYI cell companies have ALWAYS charged you full price for the phone. They figure out how much they can get from locking you into a two year contract, then charge you the difference. You seriously think a phone costs $29?? Or even $299?? LOL!!! It’s called “subsidizing”, genius. The changeover to the “installment” model is nothing more than voodoo math. You’re still ultimately paying the full price of the phone, but there is a psychological difference to the consumer when they are not locked into a “contract” that makes them more likely to buy (even though they are still obligated to make 24 monthly payments or pay the phone in full).
Oh and FYI I did have a plex pass for a year, because Plex refused to release the Vizio and Roku apps to the general public who didn’t have one. Then when they finally did and I cancelled it, I still had to go and buy the Android and Amazon apps for my other boxes.
And I should “see a shrink” because I’m hesitant to lay out a large amount of money for a service and then have absolutely no recourse if the company changes the rules to screw us in the future? Years ago I bought two lifetime subscriptions to Sirius ($500 each). Then they changed it to mean “the lifetime of the radio”, and it could be transferred to a new radio for an extra $75. Then they merged with XM and took all the good channels off the Sirius frequencies and put them on XM. Dual-band radios came out, but they flat-out refused to transfer the lifetime subscriptions to them. So I am the proud owner of two $500 paperweights. So I should see a shrink? What’s to stop Plex from pulling similar crap?
@taz420nj said:
Years ago I bought two lifetime subscriptions to Sirius ($500 each). Then they changed it to mean “the lifetime of the radio”, and it could be transferred to a new radio for an extra $75. Then they merged with XM and took all the good channels off the Sirius frequencies and put them on XM. Dual-band radios came out, but they flat-out refused to transfer the lifetime subscriptions to them. So I am the proud owner of two $500 paperweights.
And you think we care because?
Ah, yes. Equating $1000 in subscription fees (involving a company that was, and still is, in financial trouble from the day the started) to a $150 Plex subscription. Yup, the exact same thing.
(Not to mention they are two completely different types of companies, one a publicly traded corporation, one a private software development company.)
More in line is PlayOn - I bought a lifetime subscription (in cash, no whining about a “payment plan”) then less than a year later they said everyone had to pay another lifetime subscription fee becasue of new features. Oh, well, that’s the way it goes. My old license was still good for the old features. I could have stomped my feet and yelled and gotten nothing in return except some heartburn. I paid again to get the new features. I will pay again for Plex (in cash, no whining about a payment plan) if they do the same thing, I think the Plex solution is the best out there and the best that I have used (all the way back to the original TVersity, 11 years ago).
But again, you missed the point of the person I was replying to and think that somehow your bad luck with Sirius is relevant to the conversation. It is not.
He has no problem with the cost, he has a problem with budgeting for it himself and apparently needs someone else to do that for him.
(Oh, and your other post, where you resort to name calling, just proves how immature you are and how you need to grow up. Thanks for stepping up!)
You have a GREAT day now.
Since you added more to your post after I posted this - Nice name calling. I can play that game too but I am an adult.
You still pay the same amount per month for your cell phone contract but now you also pay your installments, for a cell phone. You have no clue how the discounted phones worked. You have no clue how those got “subsidized” if you think the end user paid for those. It shows even more that you have no clue how things actually work in the real world.
Done trying to argue with you, you are ignorant of how things work and you are immature. Good luck if life when you finally grow up.
(Not to mention that is typical of people who are losing arguments - start calling others names becasue you know you have lost and can’t just be an adult about it.)
