since the new Plex agent implementation, it refuses to recognize some of my files.
For example, I had Stephen King’s It in my movie folder, the 1990 TV mini serie. Even if it isn’t a “movie” strictly speaking, it has always be accepted by other agents.
But with new Plex agent, it clearly refuses to accept it as a movie, even when you provide IMDB ID (same with TMDB ID).
I had to move it to TV Shows. But I am not happy to have been forced to do this as I don’t consider this TV movie as a TV show.
Plex guys, why did you create such new limitation?
If any body knows how to solve this, please tell me.
Steven’s Kings It mini series from 1990 is a 2 episode TV series and not a movie. Check IMDB, TMDB and TVDB if still question that. That classification has nothing to do with plex. Its simply not a movie and must reside in a TV Library.
TMDB has changed their policy and purged all mini series which were previously listed as “movies” on their database.
So a few years ago, these items did get metadata when you placed them into a “movie”-type of library. But now these metadata are gone from the source.
Our library is ours. If we want to include some miniseries in our movie folder, we should be still able to do it.
Plex is a fantastic software but it shouldn’t impose too many restrictions.
And, I’d like to repeat, it was possible with legacy Plex Agent and it’s working fine with other agents.
Why do you want to impose to us such new limitation?
I think you missed Otto’s point. Plex didn’t cause this change - TMDB did. Plex queries TMDB for this information. TMDB (correctly) changed the mini-series’ classification from Movie to TV.
Has always been and shall always be a 2 episode TV series which aired over two nights. Regardless in the past if the classification as a movie was detected by plex that was a bug and it should never have been. This is fixed now and is correctly found as TV.
You can still do that if you want, you’ll just need to manually enter any metadata.
After you add it to your movie library, just edit it and put in the title, description, release date info, poster and any other info you want and make sure for the fields that have a lock icon to the left that icon is orange.
As everyone else has pointed out, Plex does not determine the classification of a TV Series or Movie, that is on the metadata providers (TheTVDB and TheMovieDB for instance). So Plex isn’t imposing any limitations as you can easily go against what the the metadata providers (again not controlled by Plex) classify stuff as but you won’t benefit from the automatic downloading of the metadata info and will need to manually handle it.
That’s where I disagree. I clearly understood that TMDB changed its classification. But if you provide IMDB ID or TMDB ID in Plex matching interface, it doesn’t return any result if it’s a movie library and it does if it’s a TV library. So, as data source is the same, Plex is applying a filter “…where Type is [movie/TVshow]” depending on library type.
For me, this filter is non-sense as it’s not Plex to enforce this filter if user is providing the exact matching ID.
Dokuro is speaking of a fixed bug. It never was a bug.
Speaking of Stephen King’s It, it’s just a movie made for Direct-to-TV in the first place that was too long to be aired on one night. ABC choosed to split it in two parts. If you check VHS and DVD versions, it has been edited to turn it as a movie again. So there is also a movie named Stephen King’s It. You can watch it on Amazon Prime Video in horror movie section. Same on AppleTV and many other VOD stores.
I dunno what I’ve done right (or wrong) but “Stephen King’s It” shows in my movie library just fine. It doesn’t have a summary, but the cast, director, genre, etc. all show up. Even shows related movies. I’m 110% positive I didn’t edit any metadata, (my extent is changing a poster) just added the mkv file ripped from the DVD.
You’re completely correct. Plex does exactly that.
Plex could change the software to remove the distinction between a Movie and TV Series Library Type. But that would be a bunch of work with a ton of impact.
A lot of Plex’s data structure is oriented around the distinction between Library and Media types, because of the different data elements that come from the metadata providers for each media type.
There’s been a TON of discussion about this over the years, usually from people who disagree with the classification of a particular movie or show. It doesn’t go anywhere because it isn’t a “bug”, rather a design/architecture detail of Plex.
I’m not sure if there’s an existing Feature Suggestions post that you could vote for. I think it’s unlikely to happen, but it’s definitely a common discussion.
If you think Plex folks are opinionated, go argue with the TMDB and TVDB folks. See @anon5074910’s link above.
It’s hard to argue that it was originally a miniseries:
In 1998, It was re-released on VHS on a single cassette tape and was altered, removing the end credits from part 1 and the opening credits of part 2. These edits carried over to all future releases of the miniseries.
Most of the metadata sources give priority to the “original” format. This is also annoying for “Production” vs. “Aired” vs. “DVD” vs. “Netflix” order for shows, or “multi-episode” format shows.
Personally I think it’s weird to just smash the two parts of It together. There’s a big thematic jump. The first and second parts even have different credited writers!
I assume that you’ve had this for a long time? I’m guessing it was initially matched when using the previous agent?
This does not match today: It (1990) {imdb-tt0099864}.ext
Actually, no. It’s in a new movie library that was created with the new agents about a year or so ago. That is, it was not an “upgrade” of an existing library. I was surprised when it matched, because I had read several posts saying this particular movie/tv show would no longer match, and was already thinking of ways to split it into two episodes for a TV library in anticipation of a failure.
As I said, not sure what I did right or wrong, but it is a matched item in my library
When you added it originally the one of the online sources probably still had it has a movie. and when you refresh metadata it is just re-using the existing bundles or http cache on your machine. Adding that as a movie for the first time right now it won’t match. that plexGUID does not exist anymore.
