Plex Web's new search - some feedback and issues

@blim5001 beat me to it! The Search Results page is now available on Web. Please see the release notes for 4.86.1.

The next Desktop release will also have the Search Results page and similar release notes when it releases. Which should be very soon Desktop 1.49.1.

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Much better search experience now – thanks.

Took a while but I’ll not dwell on the journey to get us here.

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As posted elsewhere though, searching all media still does not include photo libraries, as has been the case for a few months now. When will this be fixed?

Bumping that issue again. Thanks!

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@Atomatth

Thanks, please do that. I’m still waiting for the “photo search” to work again (wasn’t a problem before the new search engine was activated).

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WOOHOO! Finally!! I hated the other drop down approach, needing the new page 99% of the time :smiley:

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Jumping on the “thank you” bandwagon. Thank you.

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Many thanks, sir! Works as I’d hoped.

Echoing thanks for the solves. Much appreciated.

So, uh… It looks like you guys nuked the usability of the search results page for anyone with multiple versions of movies. I now get the same utterly useless results and modal that the dropdown gives. I have no way of seeing both (or all) versions of things I have multiple versions of. This legitimately makes library management nearly impossible and incredibly difficult.

Just… why???


Edition support is coming. I do not have an ETA of when though, sorry.

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I keep hearing that. But this doesn’t have to wait for edition support. Can’t you simply disable the grouping on the results page? This behavior didn’t exist until this most recent version change. And it honestly makes zero sense. What’s the point of a results page if it’s exactly the same as the drop down results? The whole point of a results page is to be able to see the results on a more granular level.

The crux of your issue is needing Search results to show all these Editions to be able to split them and edit their metadata, correct? Once Edition support is released the task of needing to split these titles apart goes away.

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No, he’s talking about having multiple versions of a movie in separate libraries, e.g. 1080p and 4K. The old search results page would show these individually, making it much easier to select them. Now, they just show as one result with a +1, +2, etc.

Your comment makes a ton of assumptions about user needs, and feels pretty dismissive.

First, no. The crux of the issue is that if I have more than one version of a movie, there is now no way to see them in any meaningful way other than scrolling to where they are in my full library. If I want to, for example, watch the GOUT edit of Empire Strikes Back, please tell me how I’m supposed to do that from the attached screenshots (which is what I get on the new search results page). This results page is literally worthless. You yourself had a clear reaction the first time you saw that “versions” modal. And yet literally nothing has been done about it.


Secondly, as @VBB pointed out, for users that split their standard and 4K movies into different libraries (to avoid remote users streaming 4K, for example), the search results page still combines them with a “+1” and the exact same worthless modal that provides literally zero identifying information. Please, explain to me how this is in any way usable, or how edition support would solve this when the results page is literally collapsing multiple libraries into singular “results”.

Finally, it honestly sounds to me like the upcoming Edition support isn’t really going to align with how I (and many other users) prefer to manage and display our libraries. I don’t want all of the versions of a movie to show up under a singular movie entry. That would nuke so many of the features I currently use.

  • I prefer having each version as its own entry in my library, in order to take advantage of the unique key art for each version. Most fan edits have awesome custom posters, and I want to see them in my library.
  • I keep fan edits in a “Fan Edits” collection. I also have a “Star Wars Fan Edits” collection for Star Wars specific edits, and I have an “Album Syncs” collection for things like Dark Side of the Rainbow. If the multiple versions aren’t their own entries in my library, these collections disappear.
  • Similarly, I have a Marvel Cinematic Universe collection and an MCU 4K collection. Same for Disney Animated Features and Pixar features, as some examples. I use really cool special key art for my 4K versions, and it’s one of my favorite things about my digital collection. Again, it sounds like edition support will nuke this.
  • A number of “versions” I have are so different I would never want them rolled into a parent entry for any reason. Album syncs are their own creations. And edits like The War of the Stars are also completely their own beasts and nothing like the original source material. Having them show up under the original film’s entry makes zero sense.

The point of all the above is that no, Edition support will not remove the need to split these titles apart. Nor will it fix the issues caused by the completely useless new search results page.

I just don’t understand why the search results page was changed? Just leave it the way it was. It worked perfectly.

And in case you’re curious as to what kind of “Edition support” would actually be beneficial, simply having the option to turn off the merging of all versions whenever a new version is added would solve so many of my problems (the new search results page not being one of them, though). Additionally, being able to manually populate more detailed metadata like cast and production/distribution companies would be amazing. I could be in a minority when it comes to this opinion, but personally I don’t want more things streamlined and made “simple”. I want more granular control over my collection. But that’s a different conversation. The way it corresponds to the current topic is that, as a user with a significant number of fan edits and 1080+4K movies in my collection, the new search results page is horrible and the upcoming Editions support will not solve my need to see each version of a movie on the results page itself. No one asked for this collapsed results view. I don’t see how anyone at Plex can look at it and actually think it’s helpful. It needs to be reverted to the previous results page behavior in order for it to have any usability.

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I based my assumption on what you’ve stated, not any other user. Just you. I assumed the issues you were having were focused on Editions, based on your previous post.

Yes, exactly. Edition support will do exactly that. So you won’t need to search for something in order to split it apart. I’m sorry that you have to wait and be stuck with the current state but I hope that once it is released you provide feedback on how it works for your needs. Based on what you’ve stated, I don’t believe anything would be nuked from your preferred setup.


As for multiple “versions” that exist across multiple libraries, the library is displayed in the selection modal.


There seems to be a bit of confusion here, Editions and Versions are two different things in Plex. Editions would refer to how you have multiple Editions of a movie (Remastered, Director’s Cut, Fan Edit, etc.). “Versions” is also a bit of a heavy word in Plex. Versions can mean a difference in quality that a user may have across libraries or Versions can mean Optimized versions created by Plex which is seen as a child to the source title.

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Interesting. Ok, I’ll hold my judgement on Edition support until it’s here. And I will definitely give plenty of feedback as it’s a core component of my library.

Will the Edition support also prevent the lumping/stacking of editions or versions in the search results? Because, again, I prefer having my 1080p and 4K versions separated for collections and easy identification. And personally I find the stacked results fairly pointless and unhelpful.

Thanks for the insight!

When I enter a search in the search bar and there are result in multiple libraries, Plex used to show all the results in the drop down and the results page… Now the results are grouped together and I have to click on the +# button, then pick a library. Many times the purpose of the search is to see which libraries an album is in, so this adds another click and not nearly as easy results to read.

Is there a way to turn off the grouping?

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I would still like to point out that my previous complaint about the search engine hasn’t been fixed either. Do you remember the one about searching “burn” and no result for “Brightburn”? Still not an option on the results page. Search still lacks looking past the prefix of words.

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@smegadeth Thanks for bumping this! Bumping the issue on my side. Thanks again!