PMS revert back to old rating from stars

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I can see a rating box on my localhost (sever)… why did you remove it from the Plex hosted app??

It’s in the latest Web release: Plex Web

If you need to unlock any fields you have locked currently you can use the bundled web version which always runs a few versions behind.

So you are saying I can unlock this… star rating
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In order to revert it back to this… the preferred method.
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I think there is some confusion here about ratings, let me just explain them quick.

There are 3 different types of ratings for Movies:

  • Critic Rating
  • Audience Rating
  • User Rating

The Critic and Audience ratings come from online metadata sources like IMDB, Rotten Tomatoes, etc. Neither of these values should be editable from inside the web interface as they’re updated automatically when a metadata refresh occurs.

The problem was that the old Rating field in the edit dialog was changing the Critic Rating and then locking it which prevents it getting updated on refreshes. The change in the latest Web version changes that to edit the User Rating like it should have been from the start.

As for it being represented by stars and not a number is just historically how we’ve always handled User Ratings. It still is represented as a number value in the database (e.g. 5 stars would be 10.0).

“The problem was that the old Rating field in the edit dialog was changing the Critic Rating and then locking it which prevents it getting updated on refreshes. The change in the latest Web version changes that to edit the User Rating like it should have been from the start.”

Correct, and it should be able to be edited and be locked so it is not ever updated when a refresh happens.

It is the critic rating. What happens if, like in my instance I prefer IMDb but I don’t have that option. Just stuck with RT or TheMovieDB. For years I have been manually typing them in and locking them so they are not changed. (Just like actual release dates).

User star ratings… I don’t care about it.

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Using the Plex Movie or Plex Movie (Legacy) agents will give you the option to use IMDb as your source.

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How many times to I have to take a screen grab of this…
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So I think you might be mistaken.

Again I am on PMS 1.20.1.3252 and I have never seen IMDb in the seven years I have been a Plex Pass member.

The Movie Database agent doesn’t support configurable ratings.

I am simply pointing out that you are incorrect. I do not have IMDb. FFS

I do not have option to choose it! Otherwise I would have done so years ago!

Your screenshots are of the Scanner and Agent settings.

When Agent is set to “Plex Movie” or “Plex Movie (Legacy)”, there will be another setting available, Ratings Source.

On mine it’s a bit lower down.

Your agent is set to The Movie Database, which doesn’t support these advanced configurations.

I’ll see if I can get a work-around set up for these cases to show the old Rating field when not using the more modern agents.

Like I said. I am on the most current version of PMS. I do not have the &$*! option to choose IMDb otherwise I would. How do I get that option!

Then we do not have this issue.

You could upgrade to the latest Matching Agent - this way you can set your Rating Source to IMDb and not have to do it manually.

Thank you Volts. I think I was finally able to explain it to Dr. Z … and hopefully we are going in the correct direction.

Done and done. However… we have an issue… no rating. I just added this to my database 4 hours ago. Easy enough to unmatch and match…

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I’ve been following along and I think I finally understand too. I couldn’t figure out how you expected it to behave.

In my mind, “IMDb rating data comes from IMDb. Why does this crazy person want to edit the IMDb data?”

To confirm for myself - in the past you’ve manually edited the “Rating” field and entered data you got from IMDb. Is that correct?

If you’re willing to move to the new scanner & agent, they’re worth it IMO. They’re so much faster, they refresh ratings from IMDb, collections are neat. I had very little trouble with the migration itself.

Yes, I have been manually entering the IMDb data for years. It sucks! However I did just run into my first snag… as you will see in my reply to Dr. Z

Again, thank you!

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With the new agent IMDb ratings are correctly classified as an Audience Rating (which isn’t editable) - you will see the rating if you open the movie page up.

Gotcha. Now I just have to go back an manually edit all 5k movies and unlock the Critic Rating field. Side Note: I noticed that you can still override the critic rating field.

I will do that over the weekend. I need to get up in 4 hrs.

Thank God the producer field is now gone!!!

Thank you again!

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On the old bundled version of the web client yes. That’s what the fix is for in the new release.

Glad we’ve saved you some time having to manually add ratings you could have had automatically years ago :smile:

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