Why doesn't LOCK mean LOCK when editing content details?

[Chrispy_Cracker]

Is the lock ever going to be fixed to lock a field?!
Every time I add a file the current row and the last two full rows lose their names to the system even when locked!
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[Chimecho]

Same thing it’s happening to me and it’s annoying.
Just added one episode and I wrote the title for that specific episode (since it can’t find a title for my language: spanish) and pressed the lock button. No tabs changed, lock icon turned orange, saved and apparently it stayed like that.

Now I added another episode, and the title for the previous episode was erased, but the lock stayed there:

It’s like: ok, I know that you want this field locked, but I don’t really care about what you want.

[JuiceWSA]

If you want items to stay locked they have to either be matched, or changed to the Personal Media Agent - then hand edited.

If you are using MP4/M4V files with Local Media Assets in the top slot - and there are embedded and bogus Title Fields within - Plex is borking your match in favor of those bogus embedded titles. Do this:

Under ALL tabs in Shows and Movies grab LMA and drop it at the bottom of the stack of active agents. Red: where it was. Green: where it goes. Then refresh metadata, Fix Match, or change to Personal Media and hand edit.

If your items are never matched, or have embedded tags that are constantly causing the item to be ‘unmatched’ -you’ll never, in a million years, get Plex to lock a field with that little padlock thingy. It simply won’t work.

Stop lookups with the Personal Media Agent, or fix your files so they stop coming unglued from the match they got on the very next scan.

[Chimecho]

@JuiceWSA

If your items are never matched, or have embedded tags that are constantly causing the item to be ‘unmatched’ -you’ll never, in a million years, get Plex to lock a field with that little padlock thingy. It simply won’t work.

Why the “little padlock thingy” works for everything but the title if it “won’t lock a field in a million years”? It just doesn’t make sense

[JuiceWSA]

If ‘The Title’ is the thing that won’t stay locked…:

Take Local Media Assets out of priority, as described above - or get used to a never ending Title Change.
or
Stop using MP4/M4V files 'cause those are the ONLY files Plex reads Title Fields in and with LMA in priority Plex will prefer a bogus embedded Title over a perfect file name. Many times, due to this - the match comes unglued and all those padlocks are nothing more than pretty icons.

[Chimecho]

@JuiceWSA

all those padlocks are nothing more than pretty icons.

Then this is in fact, a bug. There is no way that is expected behaviour.

[JuiceWSA]

@Chimecho

Then this is in fact, a bug. There is no way that is expected behaviour.

Well, that assessment would be correct - and for years Plex has thought they squashed it - only to find out… it’s back!

1. Plex is convinced (in error) LMA’s default position should be in priority - ruining the experience for every Plex person on Planet Earth that uses MP4/M4V files.

2. If you don’t name your files so they can be matched, or stop match lookups, every time Plex goes looking for that match it doesn’t have - all your edits go up in smoke.

Plex Veterans know this already. We know how to stop it and try to pass that on to you. We’re successful sometimes - sometimes not.

[Chimecho]

@JuiceWSA

ruining the experience for every Plex person on Planet Earth that uses MP4/M4V files

Converted one of them to mkv, and it still erases the title.

[JuiceWSA]

Until you Plex Dance that item - nothing will ever change.

You have a bogus bundle that you need to re-do. <—another thing Plex can’t seem to do is re-write a bogus bundle with a new one by clicking ‘Refresh Metadata’, requiring the oldest Plex Work-Around - The Plex Dance:

The Plex Dance ™

The purpose of this is to remove all cached metadata and xml data for an item that Plex usually keeps. This helps when you want to “start from scratch” for particular item move all files for the media item out of the directory your Library is looking at, so Plex will not “see” it anymore scan the library library (to detect changes) empty trash clean bundles (in menu next to server name, when accessed under ‘More’) double check naming schema and move files back scan the library Support articl…

ALL steps in the exact and precise order described, or it simply won’t work. You should also be aware - if you don’t name your files so they can be instantly matched - this problem will NEVER go away. The correct time to fix that - is halfway through The Plex Dance - while the item(s) are not where Plex can see them - so when Plex does see them - they’re perfect.

[Chimecho]

Did The Plex Dance, changing the name to S03E02.mkv halfway through, added, still doesn’t get a match and still erases the title if I set it manually.

[JuiceWSA]

@Chimecho

S03E02.mkv

So that’s your episode name?
Really?

This seems appropriate ATM:

https://support.plex.tv/articles/categories/your-media/

If your files were named so they can be matched - and you have LMA out of priority (or are using MKV files) - and have completely REMOVED the Show (yes, the whole thing) while undergoing a Plex Dance - you wouldn’t be having this problem. You can’t fix one file - while every other file is still borked.

When the bundle is borked - the only thing that’ll unbork it is a complete Re-Do. Plex Dance or not - it’s up to you. Follow the instructions for Media Preparation or not - it’s up to you.

We Veterans don’t have this problem. We did once, but we found the cure:

FileBot

[Chimecho]

@JuiceWSA

So that’s your episode name?
Really?

Yep, that’s the name and that should be enough, since that part is the only thing that is going to be matched against the agent. Never had a problem naming it like that, or adding all the bells and whistles.

@JuiceWSA

and have completely REMOVED the Show (yes, the whole thing)

I’m not gonna remove the whole show since there are like 1.1K+ episodes, and I have made some manual fixes here and there, and I don’t feel like going through all of that all over again, I can’t even remember what I did.

I guess I will have to wait for a proper/real fix and keep copying the “Sorting Title” to the title every time I add a new episode.

Thanks anyway.

[JuiceWSA]

@Chimecho

I guess I will have to wait for a proper/real fix and keep copying the “Sorting Title” to the title every time I add a new episode.

Well, OK.

I can lead a horse to water, wrestle it to the ground and drown it in 6 inches of of the stuff, but I can’t make it drink…

Note: Users have been waiting for this ‘Fix’ you speak of for about 15 years. Should be any day now (FileBot, The Plex Dance and The LMA Hack are more of an ‘Instant Gratification’ thing).

Merry Christmas

[Chimecho]

@JuiceWSA

I can lead a horse to water, wrestle it to the ground and drown it in 6 inches of of the stuff, but I can’t make it drink…

Because maybe the horse is hungry and not thirsty

Merry Christmas!

[JuiceWSA]

@Chimecho

Because maybe the horse is hungry and not thirsty

Here’s a distraction and a Christmas Eve Story (in a few hours):

I lived on Hatteras Island for - my youth - Surf Fishing, working like a dog in Summer, and trying to rid the world of Adult Beverages (generally an epic fail - there’s more of that stuff than you think).

Anyway, a big ‘Touron’ Draw was riding horses from the stable out to ‘The Point’, a spit of sand formed at the end of the ‘Labrador Current’ from the North and ‘The Gulf Stream’ from the South. “The Graveyard Of The Atlantic”, as it’s so appropriately named.

Sometimes, after a storm in hard Summer (when it’s too hot to do anything and the fishing generally sucks) pools form after high tide. Some of these pools can be ankle deep, some, can swallow a Suburban - Whole.

The horses are very familiar with their surroundings, have been doing their thing for a long time, are gentle beasts that can be trusted to bring everyone home should ‘the drivers’ get lost in 90 minutes when their ‘shift’ is over.

It’s hotter than blazes. Spanish Mackerel are running hard and a good cast or 6 will make dinner, so we’re all there after work when a pack of ‘Tourons’ show up horseback to check out The Point.

“Here’s one of those pools that would be nice for the horses to wade through, Honey. Let’s go.”

The Horses, stopped for a moment, knowing what was going to happen, and even looked back at their charges as if to say: “Are you sure?”, but at the insistence of their drivers, took a little leap into what was certainly a ‘Puddle’ 14 feet deep - the same one they pulled a Suburban out of earlier that week, riders screaming and swimming, tupperware, water bottles and sandwich bags afloat with floundering ‘Tourons’, the majestic horses (this must be how they have fun) now all cooled off swam to the opposite bank and stood waiting for everybody to swim to safety…

Horses are so cool…

Normally, this is what happens in Summer (when ur Mackerel Rig is suddenly inadequate), but those ‘Distractions’ are entertaining:

‘Lola’ landed that beast with some instruction and it was cleanly released - Jack Cravalle - about 30 pounds - in 12 minutes - at 8 minutes ‘Lola’ was informed: ‘Land it, or we’re cuttin’ it off!’ - She landed it - I had tied her knots - I knew it was possible - 12# FireLine with an Assie Braid to 30# shock for the 5 ounce Stinger toss - that I threw right on top that pack of feeding Jacks - and handed her rig to her, fully involved with line peeling off on 10# of drag. A 10’- 9" graphite one-piece with an ABU 6500 High-Speed Custom Reel. A sweet rig.