Could Plex find an alternitive to The TVDB as a source of metadata

or anything else…

Almost everyday I find something totally messed up because of the TVDB and their constant changing of information…

Today’s disaster is “The Twilight Zone” they changed the year from 1959 to 1952.
Why? because they can I guess…

I have the following;
The Twilight Zone (1959)
The Twilight Zone (1985)
The Twilight Zone (2002)
The Twilight Zone (2019)

In the last year they have changed the The Twilight Zone (1959) the following times and I’ve fixed it as follows;

The Twilight Zone (1959)
The Twilight Zone 1960 | The Twilight Zone 1963 | The Twilight Zone 1962 | The Twilight Zone 1961 | The Twilight Zone 1959 | The Twilight Zone 1964

and now it’s 1952…

This is just one TV show, and I haven’t shown the changes to the others The Twilight Zone years…

Every time they change a year things won’t match anymore…
They just don’t seem to grasp the problems they are creating every time they do something like that. And from what I can tell since they just ignore is they don’t care.

So now I have to rename that whole show to the new year (1952) and add it to the data base so that any of those years are accounted for. Automation is great as long as the information is consistent.

Could some one from Plex have a discussion with the powers to be at the TVDB and see if we can get this settled once and for all…
If not PLEASE find another metadata provider… Hopefully one that knows what they are doing.

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There is already an alternative available: themoviedb.org
You can use ‘Fix Match’ to switch on a per-show basis.

I thought I heard they were getting out of listing TV series…

Any sources?

No…

I just remember when the TVDB changed the API and all the issues the TMDB was suggested but at the time it was limited and as I said heard they weren’t in the series business so to speak.

So if this is Plex’s solution or answer then it is what it is…

They are not - they’re actually doing more and more - and as TVDB goes more and more flippin rubber-room-drool-fest-whack-job - it’s a good thing:

https://thetvdb.com/series/the-twilight-zone/episodes/4702886

The reason they went to '52 from '59 is for that little gem - NOT written by Rod Serling, but adapted by Serling for episode 11 of the first season of TZ - NOT part of Twilight Zone in any stretch of anyone’s imagination, but some fool thinks Tales of Tomorrow is cool enough to be Twilight Zone - 'cause another episode of Twilight Zone had the same name.

That’s what we’re dealing with here friends.
Crazy people.

The Twilight Zone ran from 1959 to 1964 - Period.
That’s how it’s listed and named in my library - and I’m pretty sure I Fixed Match, but It’s not changed it since the first day I added it - a hundred years ago - so that’s what it is in my library - Correct despite everything TVDB says to the contrary.

At no time has it ever UnFixed itself. Might want to see what’s causing that.

Note:
TMDB is changing their TV Movies to TV Shows - which is more insanity, but it is what it is. Personal Media is going to be more of thing in the coming days, I think.

That’s all a total understatement. Changing years? Hell if it was ONLY that.
Over the last year or so I have at varying points found shows that apparently never existed.
All fine one day. Never existed the next. I’m sure no cast member, director, producer, filming studio would ever be able to convince TVDB otherwise.
You can I believe ask for a show to be locked on TVDB. Sadly in my experience, it seems that will only happen if all the current info is fubar.

Sadly Otto’s solution Is no solution at all if you use VP thumbs. At least if I understand correctly that changing info provider and it will regenerate VP thumbs. Not gonna happen on 95TB of TV shows.

Right now I’m all over various metadata managers. I pull correct metadata, valid .nfo’s, etc… (from any source that is correct)
A lot of shows to wade through but once done LMA will be top of the list and I will make sure the TVDB’s nonsense will never affect me again.

Over my rotting corpse…
(and if somebody changes it after my expiry date - hook me up to generator 'cause I’ll be spinning like a top)

lol

Do you recommend themoviedb.org over thetvdb.com?

I recommend whichever gives you better results for a particular show.

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… neither (lol), but on a per show basis I will abandon TVDB for TMDB is TMDB looks better. Changing your Library to TMDB is - not recommended.

So you don’t approve of knowing your metadata will stay unchanged? :open_mouth:
Or did I misunderstand.

No, mine never changes for some reason.

If it did I’d be leading the angry villagers up Plex Hill, but it doesn’t ever change.

It’s been this way for at least 8 years - and I’m not changing it - EVER!:

Let’s try to find out why it changes for youz guyz.
When I Fix Match - it stays Fixed.
I don’t have Shows or Movies suddenly coming unglued.
That sounds like a malfunction to me.

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I was just trying to be simple and direct to the point…
The things that TVDB has messed up on me, write a book…

I like to keep the metadata up to date, add any thing missing, extras…
Can’t do that if the show year changes… was my point…

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Never experienced year changing, something wrong there.

The Original Metadata must be incorrect, once Matched thats it, no Plex hanky-panky

The point is that Plex has the 1959 date but when TVDB changed their date to 1952 everyone else followed… So if I am looking for extras for the 1959 series but it’s labeled as 1952 they won’t match and I miss them.

Well… that’s outside my wheel-house. I don’t use Plex to go looking for Trailers and Extras - if I want any of those I find 'em myself.

My media doesn’t suddenly come unhooked from a Fix Match - or a Natural Match - ever.
If it did - I’d be making a lot of noise about it.

I’ll put my ear plugs in… make some noise. You have my support and sympathy.

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That what I said…
I don’t use Plex for anything other than playing my media…

example… Found an interview about the 1959 series of The Twilight Zone one i don’t have.

added it to the special folder and tried to match it…
won’t match because the TVDb doesn’t have the 1959 series it’s 1952…

So I manually matched it…

But what of the Plex user who just got the series and is trying to match it…
good luck,

cheers!

Because don’t forget TMDB looks better… don’t worry about accuracy.
And pretend you never read the first paragraph here when you make the TMDB your preference Plex Issue With Years Using The Movie Database Agent when you make your choice.
You can be absolutely sure that those idiot users mentioned invited their less bright friends and family to contribute to TVDB.