First, I have followed this to the letter and does not work on Linux. (But I will post that in a new thread)
Second, Why is there not an option for this deep in the settings?
Have you ever tried to reorganize your folders, categories as your media library grew only to be thwarted by countless hours of trying to fix the metadata?
Plex, for most users you have one job. Organize and metatag media. (Sure maybe outside connections for those of use that are happy to pay)., but all the rest is just bells and whistles.
Clean house Plex team. Please make total metatag wipe for a folder a try function of the program. (you can replace the function ārefresh all metatagā which doesnāt seem to do anything.)
Perfect file names and structures - as described in the Support Pages - enjoy a 90% success rate requiring no intervention at my house. Whatās really interesting is since this ānew hook-upā with TVDB, the matches are much faster and, so far, more accurate. <ā using pristine naming and structuring proved by our Friendly FileBot.
Not sure how ātorrent namingā is holding up among the masses.
I agree that the TVdb matches are super fast now, however I still have an issue where they are not downloading any metadata and I bet I am not the only one.
It would be great to have an option to effortlessly purge and refresh metadata.
I never want to hear the suggestion do āthe Plex Danceā again. Personally I feel that is a poor user experience for recommended solutions to a problem.
No arguments there - thatās what The Plex Dance is for and itās the work-around for that option Plex canāt make happen with an Easy Button.
Iām being fully populated with metadata - in fact it never stopped, but it did get real slow. I didnāt add any ābrand new showsā during the crisis, but I have now and theyāre working fine.
Nobody has railed against the Plex Dance more than I have. Recent redesign of the scanning agent for music has pretty much eliminated the need for it in music libraries. Itās going to require similar work in the other scanning agents to eliminate the need for the dance altogether.
The idea of adding the dance as a feature was brought up in that thread, but I still maintain that it makes no sense to invest time and money to build a feature that works around the bugs, rather than fixing the bugs that make the workaround necessary. Hopefully what was learned in the music agent redesign will be applied to the other agents.
I have done MANY rounds of the Plex Dance and it the end it always came down to not following the naming convention EXACTLY.
Filebot is an exceptional time saver when you have many to do.
At this point I can blow away my plex server and have it rescan the thousands of video files I have and it will need some help with less than 10.files. It is extremely relaible and accurate now with correctly names folders and files.
My experience is that Iāve had to Plex Dance more artists and albums in the last 2 months than I ever did with the old scanner in 5 years or so. No idea what Iām doing wrong in my music library, but I know I can Plex Dance as well as anyone.
I could say of about 10 thousand FileBot items Plex fumbled MAYBE 3 - after āthatā Plex fumbled 10% of FileBot named items. The last 12 hours has been going better, but Iāll need more sample time to form a new opinion, if one is warranted.
Weird, I donāt think Iāve had to dance once (in music) since the new agent was released. The Refresh Metadata command is finally doing what itās supposed to, for me.
well now that this is a discussion thread, Iāll add another comment.
I only remember Plex dancing 3 artists/albums in my old library. Eagles,.Heart and Bonnie Raitt. They all came up with duplicate entries for the artist. Half of the albums under one, the other half in the other. I had misspelled Bonnie Raitt in some of the tags, so I understood the reason for the Dance. The Eagles had a mix of āThe Eaglesā and āEaglesā in the tags. There was no reason to split Heart that I could see, but the Plex Dance fixed it.
I completely wiped that library about 5 months ago, and started new. I made sure all of the folder/file structure was right, embedded metadata was accurate, .and slowly started adding them back into a new (Premium) library. When I found out that Plex was changing the metadata retrieval to MusicBrainz, I tagged with Picard, hoping for the best match possible when the system changed over.
Iām not implying there have been a lot of mismatches, but there has been at least a dozen or so where āRefresh Metadataā doesnāt do anything, or worse, removes the parts that it had right before. Especially when itās the Album Artist tag. (I know itās not the proper use of that tag, but the world has adopted it for that purpose)
Fix Match and Refresh Metadata sometimes works and sometimes not. Plex Dance always does.
Does it even use tags by default? Music is the one area that I do not have great success with, although the new āpremium for allā based on music brainz seemed better. I rebuilt my music library completely a day or two after the feature was released.
I too am using picard to tag everything, but I didnāt think it would impact plex, unless I was willing to use local metadata as the agent. I am only about 20% through with picard, so I canāt do that.
Iām in a love-hate relationship with the new Plex Music right now, so Iām gonna be cautious about what I say.
I like a lot of the new features ā the artist bios, album reviews, etc really give a boost to the old system. But, thereās a few glitches Iāve run into that Iāve talked about in other threads, that have basically stopped me from trying to add new music to Plex.
I donāt think Plex uses embedded metadata by default. I primarily didnāt like the genres that Plex assigned to my albums and/or artists, and for that reason, selected the option to use local metadata. One would think using the tagger that comes right from MusicBrainz would give you a little advantage in the whole scheme of things, but the truth is, Plex uses very little of all the extra stuff that Picard adds into the metadata.
Okay, Im not a moron.
I have removed the library. Scanned the bundles. Reboot the linux Ubuntu box. Renamed the folder. Confirmed that the folders matched naming convention which has worked in the past. Scanned the library bundles. Added a new library with a different name. (Now only one TV series out of all the dozens of tv series scans)
Obviously my install or setup connecting to TVDB is bjorked, but as you had read above I had previously performed a reinstall.
Can you enhance the Linux server built to include a repair / rebuild or do I have to reinstall Ubuntu next?!?
I feel the coders donāt realize the severity that the linux community is dying because of poor Media Sever setup repair with metadata.
Can you please make the easy button, you have one job: add some metadata / cover art. Canāt you create a new option to reinstate permissions, rebuild the install, purge ALL linux temp stores, clear out and reset agent settings, then do a library bundle cleanup / metadata refresh.
I have installed the latest server updates that recently popped up and rebooted.
Glad it works for you. It had previously been working fine for me with the same media after several reinstalls. Are you on Linux with a borked agent or permissions or bundle library install?
No? Then you probably wouldnāt have this problem. The problem is on Linux the developers havenāt fix the agent. I have not the last couple times I refreshed my media from a back folder on different servers.
Also why do we have to rename media. Canāt they do wildcard partial string search against best candidate? It;s what Stephen Selphi does on the Raspberry Pi emulation station game matching project. Of course that is with Go.
I have installed the latest plex server update. Iām sure Iām missing something easy or the server update doesnāt work. Plex, help us please.
Good to hear about the work with music, your opinion on the plex dance, and a fellow Linux user.
I agree with that in sentiment about fixing the underlying bug, but if we waited until all the bugs were squashed before release we would never have software. Sometimes a repair feature to mitigate a continued and known issue experienced by many is a worthwhile investment of time.
My only solution at this point as I see it, is to rebuild the operating system and do a clean install.
