LG webOS Plex 3.60.1 Buffering Problem

I’m having a similar issue, since the update.

Tried to watch a 40mbps video and it kept buffering every couple of minutes.

I finally gave up on Plex and tried LG’s photo and video app, which played the file without any issue.

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Same here. 1080p direct play will buffer every few seconds with the new player.
Also: The player navigation is extremely sluggish and nearly impossible to use properly and my local server is detected as remote… as I noted a couple of weeks back in my review of the early access version…
I am not sure why I am even writing this… apparently the devs do not care.

Its unbelievable that theres no update in so many days to fix a CRITICAL BUG like this buffering issue… can’t playback anything.

In my case the problem was that Plex wasnt able to connect directly to the media server. For me changing “Allow Fallback to Insecure Connections” to “always” fixed the problem and Plex was able to direct play everything like before the update.
As a workaround this might help you until Plex staff fix the problem.

still a problem with 3.62.1 update

Fix the problem, please.

I’m giving it another week at most before i go looking for an alternative. 30 second buffering for 30 second watching is not acceptable.
It works just fine in the browser, but as soon as i try it on the lg app it’s a gamble if it will work or buffer all the time since the redesign.

Any news with the update?

Same happening here. Was fine before the new UI landed

We need more information on which devices and media (XML media info and samples) to investigate further. I’m seeing stuttering with high bitrate UHD (~75Mbit), but not long term buffering.

PMS logs with Log to Media Server would also be helpful.

Same here: I see direct stream for video and audio on my 4k.
Here is some info, maybe related or not, On my end it says it cant direct play:

We're going to try to auto-select an audio stream for account 1.
Jul 30, 2018 15:34:37.645 [0x7fde3ca23700] DEBUG - Selecting best audio stream for part ID 59402 (autoselect: 1 language: fr)
Jul 30, 2018 15:34:37.645 [0x7fde3ca23700] DEBUG - Audio Stream: 144808, Subtitle Stream: 0
Jul 30, 2018 15:34:37.650 [0x7fde3ca23700] DEBUG - MDE: Selected protocol hls; container: mpegts
Jul 30, 2018 15:34:37.650 [0x7fde3ca23700] DEBUG - MDE: analyzing media item 49876
Jul 30, 2018 15:34:37.650 [0x7fde3ca23700] DEBUG - MDE: Ready Player One (2018): Direct Play is disabled
Jul 30, 2018 15:34:37.650 [0x7fde3ca23700] DEBUG - MDE: Ready Player One (2018): media must be transcoded in order to use the hls protocol
Jul 30, 2018 15:34:37.650 [0x7fde3ca23700] DEBUG - MDE: Ready Player One (2018): selected audio stream is not the first audio stream and direct play stream selection is not enabled
Jul 30, 2018 15:34:37.651 [0x7fde3ca23700] DEBUG - MDE: Ready Player One (2018): no direct play video profile exists for http/mkv/hevc
Jul 30, 2018 15:34:37.651 [0x7fde3ca23700] DEBUG - MDE: Ready Player One (2018): no direct play video profile exists for http/mkv/hevc/truehd
Jul 30, 2018 15:34:37.651 [0x7fde3ca23700] DEBUG - MDE: Ready Player One (2018): no direct play video profile exists for http/mkv/hevc/ac3
Jul 30, 2018 15:34:37.651 [0x7fde3ca23700] DEBUG - MDE: Ready Player One (2018): no direct play video profile exists for http/mkv/hevc/dca
Jul 30, 2018 15:34:37.651 [0x7fde3ca23700] DEBUG - MDE: Ready Player One (2018): no direct play video profile exists for http/mkv/hevc/dca
Jul 30, 2018 15:34:37.651 [0x7fde3ca23700] DEBUG - MDE: Ready Player One (2018): no direct play video profile exists for http/mkv/hevc/ac3
Jul 30, 2018 15:34:37.651 [0x7fde3ca23700] DEBUG - MDE: Ready Player One (2018): selected media 0 / 49876
Jul 30, 2018 15:34:37.651 [0x7fde3ca23700] DEBUG - Streaming Resource: Added session 0x7fde414b0960:gcib9tehs13jtt9okrpcgt04
Jul 30, 2018 15:34:37.651 [0x7fde3ca23700] DEBUG - Streaming Resource: Reached Decision id=29893 codes=(General=1001,Direct play not available; Conversion OK. Direct Play=3000,App cannot direct play this item. Direct play is disabled. Transcode=1001,Direct play not available; Conversion OK.) media=(id=49876 part=(id=59402 decision=transcode container=mpegts protocol=hls streams=(Video=(id=144803 decision=copy width=3840 height=2160) Audio=(id=144808 decision=copy channels=6 rate=48000))))
Jul 30, 2018 15:34:37.656 [0x7fde4dfff700] DEBUG - Completed: [192.168.1.26:37193] 200 GET /video/:/transcode/universal/decision?hasMDE=1&path=%2Flibrary%2Fmetadata%2F29893&mediaIndex=0&partIndex=0&protocol=hls&fastSeek=1&directPlay=0&directStream=1&subtitleSize=100&audioBoost=100&location=lan&directStreamAudio=1&session=3iyar475qjxxbt9v6my2q5kd&subtitles=burn&Accept-Language=fr-CA (6 live) TLS GZIP 31ms 4528 bytes (pipelined: 3)
Video info ::
General
Unique ID                      : 132163380355064023537685762254750719461 (0x636DBDBDD2CCA4AAB8835FF743ED9DE5)
Complete name                  : Z:\4K Movies\Ready Player One (2018)\Ready Player One (2018).mkv
Format                         : Matroska
Format version                 : Version 4 / Version 2
File size                      : 69.4 GiB
Duration                       : 2 h 19 min
Overall bit rate mode          : Variable
Overall bit rate               : 71.0 Mb/s
Movie name                     : Ready Player One (2018)
Encoded date                   : UTC 2018-07-08 14:17:45
Writing application            : mkvmerge v24.0.0 ('Beyond The Pale') 64-bit
Writing library                : libebml v1.3.6 + libmatroska v1.4.9

Video
ID                             : 1
Format                         : HEVC
Format/Info                    : High Efficiency Video Coding
Commercial name                : HDR10
Format profile                 : Main 10@L5.1@High
Codec ID                       : V_MPEGH/ISO/HEVC
Duration                       : 2 h 19 min
Bit rate                       : 63.0 Mb/s
Width                          : 3 840 pixels
Height                         : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio           : 16:9
Frame rate mode                : Constant
Frame rate                     : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space                    : YUV
Chroma subsampling             : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth                      : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)             : 0.317
Stream size                    : 61.6 GiB (89%)
Title                          : Ready Player One (2018)
Language                       : Multiple languages
Default                        : No
Forced                         : No
Color range                    : Limited
Color primaries                : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics       : PQ
Matrix coefficients            : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primar : BT.2020
Mastering display luminance    : min: 0.0050 cd/m2, max: 4000 cd/m2
Maximum Content Light Level    : 725 cd/m2
Maximum Frame-Average Light Le : 162 cd/m2

Audio #1
ID                             : 2
Format                         : TrueHD
Format profile                 : TrueHD+Atmos / TrueHD
Codec ID                       : A_TRUEHD
Duration                       : 2 h 19 min
Bit rate mode                  : Variable
Bit rate                       : 3 218 kb/s
Maximum bit rate               : 5 004 kb/s
Channel(s)                     : Object Based / 8 channels
Channel positions              : Object Based / Front: L C R, Side: L R, Back: L R, LFE
Sampling rate                  :  / 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                     : 1 200.000 FPS (40 SPF)
Compression mode               : Lossless
Stream size                    : 3.15 GiB (5%)
Title                          : TrueHD Atmos 7.1
Language                       : English
Default                        : Yes
Forced                         : No

Audio #2
ID                             : 3
Format                         : AC-3
Format/Info                    : Audio Coding 3
Codec ID                       : A_AC3
Duration                       : 2 h 19 min
Bit rate mode                  : Constant
Bit rate                       : 448 kb/s
Channel(s)                     : 6 channels
Channel positions              : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate                  : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                     : 31.250 FPS (1536 SPF)
Bit depth                      : 16 bits
Compression mode               : Lossy
Stream size                    : 448 MiB (1%)
Title                          : AC3 5.1
Language                       : English
Service kind                   : Complete Main
Default                        : No
Forced                         : No

Audio #3
ID                             : 4
Format                         : DTS
Format/Info                    : Digital Theater Systems
Format profile                 : MA / Core
Codec ID                       : A_DTS
Duration                       : 2 h 19 min
Bit rate mode                  : Variable / Constant
Bit rate                       : 2 329 kb/s / 1 509 kb/s
Channel(s)                     : 6 channels
Channel positions              : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate                  : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                     : 93.750 FPS (512 SPF)
Bit depth                      : 16 bits
Compression mode               : Lossless / Lossy
Stream size                    : 2.28 GiB (3%)
Title                          : DTS-HD MA 5.1
Language                       : English
Default                        : No
Forced                         : No

Audio #4
ID                             : 5
Format                         : DTS
Format/Info                    : Digital Theater Systems
Codec ID                       : A_DTS
Duration                       : 2 h 19 min
Bit rate mode                  : Constant
Bit rate                       : 1 509 kb/s
Channel(s)                     : 6 channels
Channel positions              : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate                  : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                     : 93.750 FPS (512 SPF)
Bit depth                      : 16 bits
Compression mode               : Lossy
Stream size                    : 1.48 GiB (2%)
Title                          : DTS 5.1
Language                       : English
Default                        : No
Forced                         : No

Audio #5
ID                             : 6
Format                         : AC-3
Format/Info                    : Audio Coding 3
Codec ID                       : A_AC3
Duration                       : 2 h 19 min
Bit rate mode                  : Constant
Bit rate                       : 384 kb/s
Channel(s)                     : 6 channels
Channel positions              : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate                  : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                     : 31.250 FPS (1536 SPF)
Bit depth                      : 16 bits
Compression mode               : Lossy
Stream size                    : 384 MiB (1%)
Title                          : AC3 5.1 VFQ
Language                       : French
Service kind                   : Complete Main
Default                        : No
Forced                         : No

Text #1
ID                             : 7
Format                         : PGS
Codec ID                       : S_HDMV/PGS
Codec ID/Info                  : Picture based subtitle format used on BDs/HD-DVDs
Duration                       : 2 h 18 min
Bit rate                       : 34.2 kb/s
Count of elements              : 3680
Stream size                    : 34.0 MiB (0%)
Language                       : English
Default                        : No
Forced                         : No

Text #2
ID                             : 8
Format                         : PGS
Codec ID                       : S_HDMV/PGS
Codec ID/Info                  : Picture based subtitle format used on BDs/HD-DVDs
Duration                       : 2 h 18 min
Bit rate                       : 25.8 kb/s
Count of elements              : 3200
Stream size                    : 25.6 MiB (0%)
Language                       : French
Default                        : No
Forced                         : No

Text #3
ID                             : 9
Format                         : PGS
Codec ID                       : S_HDMV/PGS
Codec ID/Info                  : Picture based subtitle format used on BDs/HD-DVDs
Duration                       : 2 h 18 min
Bit rate                       : 355 b/s
Count of elements              : 34
Stream size                    : 362 KiB (0%)
Language                       : French
Default                        : No
Forced                         : No

Menu
00:00:00.000                   : en:Chapter 01
00:10:08.232                   : en:Chapter 02
00:20:18.258                   : en:Chapter 03
00:30:37.460                   : en:Chapter 04
00:40:38.269                   : en:Chapter 05
00:50:08.964                   : en:Chapter 06
01:03:01.444                   : en:Chapter 07
01:11:54.935                   : en:Chapter 08
01:20:14.518                   : en:Chapter 09
01:30:57.994                   : en:Chapter 10
01:43:26.742                   : en:Chapter 11
01:53:02.150                   : en:Chapter 12
02:04:20.161                   : en:Chapter 13
02:09:17.040                   : en:Chapter 14

I have Tombraider movie that direct play on Xplay, but it directstream on Plex.

X-Plex-Model => OLED55B7V-Z
X-Plex-Platform => webOS

Tested it just now with a 20 minute 720p subtitled anime file, it seemed to buffer a lot for several minutes at the start, then get to a normal speed (i didn’t finish playing it though, so it might buffer more later).

Do you want any specific part of the logs, or should we just send you the entire log, if so, can we do that directly?

This is the reason why direct play won’t work. In my testing stream selection on the LG TVs doesn’t work, direct stream shouldn’t have a major impact.

Ideally restart PMS and then reproduce the issue and send the whole log file over. You can PM it to me.

Well I cant watch the movie without constant buffering here and there.
I modified my MKV to have the audio stream at first and set it by default, still streaming…
Ill try to add more log tomorrow.

Content-Length of /volume1/NAS/4K Movies/Ready Player One (2018)/Ready Player One (2018).mkv is 74469242032.
 Jul 31, 2018 21:38:35.941 [0x7fde37fff700] DEBUG - Created thumbnail of size 1051x591, has pixels: 1
 Jul 31, 2018 21:38:36.058 [0x7fde4dd11700] DEBUG - Failed to stream media, client probably disconnected after 2146304 bytes: 104 - Connection reset by peer
 Jul 31, 2018 21:38:36.059 [0x7fde4dd11700] DEBUG - Completed: [192.168.1.26:41896] 200 GET /library/parts/59624/1533062212/file.mkv (12 live) TLS 220ms 2146304 bytes
 Jul 31, 2018 21:38:36.089 [0x7fde4dfff700] DEBUG - Completed: [192.168.1.117:59614] 200 GET /photo/:/transcode?url=%2Flibrary%2Fmetadata%2F30018%2Fart%2F1533063031%3FX-Plex-Token%3Dxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx&width=1050&height=591&minSize=1 (12 live) TLS GZIP 511ms 131307 bytes (pipelined: 2)
 Jul 31, 2018 21:38:36.191 [0x7fde4dfff700] DEBUG - Auth: authenticated user 1 as VVagnard
 Jul 31, 2018 21:38:36.191 [0x7fde4bcf3700] DEBUG - Request: [192.168.1.26:41892 (Subnet)] GET /video/:/transcode/universal/decision?hasMDE=1&path=%2Flibrary%2Fmetadata%2F30018&mediaIndex=0&partIndex=0&protocol=hls&fastSeek=1&directPlay=0&directStream=1&subtitleSize=100&audioBoost=100&location=lan&directStreamAudio=1&session=szdgjp5wekvmfgvi7n0kgi9m&subtitles=burn&Accept-Language=fr-CA (11 live) TLS GZIP Signed-in Token (VVagnard)
 Jul 31, 2018 21:38:36.192 [0x7fde4bcf3700] DEBUG - Found session GUID of szdgjp5wekvmfgvi7n0kgi9m in session start.
 Jul 31, 2018 21:38:36.192 [0x7fde4bcf3700] DEBUG - TranscodeUniversalRequest: using augmented profile HTML TV App
 Jul 31, 2018 21:38:36.193 [0x7fde4bcf3700] DEBUG - Downloading document http://127.0.0.1:32400/library/metadata/30018?includeBandwidths=1&offset=-1&X-Plex-Session-Identifier=oyp0njaz89pv6lxr9r3h1xqc
 Jul 31, 2018 21:38:36.194 [0x7fde4bcf3700] DEBUG - Auth: authenticated user 1 as VVagnard
 Jul 31, 2018 21:38:36.209 [0x7fde4bcf3700] DEBUG - It took 10.000000 ms to retrieve 109 items.
 Jul 31, 2018 21:38:36.212 [0x7fde4bcf3700] DEBUG - We're going to try to auto-select an audio stream for account 1.
 Jul 31, 2018 21:38:36.212 [0x7fde4bcf3700] DEBUG - Selecting best audio stream for part ID 59624 (autoselect: 1 language: fr)
 Jul 31, 2018 21:38:36.212 [0x7fde4bcf3700] DEBUG - We're going to try to auto-select a subtitle.
 Jul 31, 2018 21:38:36.212 [0x7fde4bcf3700] DEBUG - Audio Stream: 145358, Subtitle Stream: -1
 Jul 31, 2018 21:38:36.217 [0x7fde4bcf3700] DEBUG - MDE: Selected protocol hls; container: mpegts
 Jul 31, 2018 21:38:36.217 [0x7fde4bcf3700] DEBUG - MDE: analyzing media item 50035
 Jul 31, 2018 21:38:36.218 [0x7fde4bcf3700] DEBUG - MDE: Ready Player One (2018): Direct Play is disabled
 Jul 31, 2018 21:38:36.218 [0x7fde4bcf3700] DEBUG - MDE: Ready Player One (2018): media must be transcoded in order to use the hls protocol
 Jul 31, 2018 21:38:36.218 [0x7fde4bcf3700] DEBUG - MDE: Ready Player One (2018): no direct play video profile exists for http/mkv/hevc
 Jul 31, 2018 21:38:36.218 [0x7fde4bcf3700] DEBUG - MDE: Ready Player One (2018): no direct play video profile exists for http/mkv/hevc/ac3
 Jul 31, 2018 21:38:36.218 [0x7fde4bcf3700] DEBUG - MDE: Ready Player One (2018): no direct play video profile exists for http/mkv/hevc/truehd
 Jul 31, 2018 21:38:36.218 [0x7fde4bcf3700] DEBUG - MDE: Ready Player One (2018): no direct play video profile exists for http/mkv/hevc/ac3
 Jul 31, 2018 21:38:36.218 [0x7fde4bcf3700] DEBUG - MDE: Ready Player One (2018): no direct play video profile exists for http/mkv/hevc/dca
 Jul 31, 2018 21:38:36.218 [0x7fde4bcf3700] DEBUG - MDE: Ready Player One (2018): no direct play video profile exists for http/mkv/hevc/dca
 Jul 31, 2018 21:38:36.218 [0x7fde4bcf3700] DEBUG - MDE: Ready Player One (2018): selected media 0 / 50035
 Jul 31, 2018 21:38:36.219 [0x7fde4bcf3700] DEBUG - Streaming Resource: Reached Decision id=30018 codes=(General=1001,Direct play not available; Conversion OK. Direct Play=3000,App cannot direct play this item. Direct play is disabled. Transcode=1001,Direct play not available; Conversion OK.) media=(id=50035 part=(id=59624 decision=transcode container=mpegts protocol=hls streams=(Video=(id=145357 decision=copy width=3840 height=2160) Audio=(id=145358 decision=copy channels=6 rate=48000))))
 Jul 31, 2018 21:38:36.223 [0x7fde4dfff700] DEBUG - Completed: [192.168.1.26:41892] 200 GET /video/:/transcode/universal/decision?hasMDE=1&path=%2Flibrary%2Fmetadata%2F30018&mediaIndex=0&partIndex=0&protocol=hls&fastSeek=1&directPlay=0&directStream=1&subtitleSize=100&audioBoost=100&location=lan&directStreamAudio=1&session=szdgjp5wekvmfgvi7n0kgi9m&subtitles=burn&Accept-Language=fr-CA (11 live) TLS GZIP 32ms 4842 bytes (pipelined: 7)

No mention this time that the selected audio stream is not the first audio stream, so what is the problem this time?

Can we just roll back to the old app? I honestly prefer the old design, LG scroll wheel doesn’t work with the new design and the new app buffers constantly.

Why not just give us the old app back???

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OK I’ve tried Thor Ragnarok 4k movie I had (56249 kbps). This movie DirectPlay on both Xplay and Plex app.
Movie buffer on Plex app but play perfectly on XPlay.
Conclusion Plex app is buggged.

I have even Wired my TV with an Ethernet cable directly and it still buffer.

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I follow the thread.

My SmartTV is LG UH668V
Software version: 05.30.20
Plex App 3.62.1

Before I had not any issues, I do not know which version of Plex I had, but I remember that the TV updated the OS a few weeks ago I think and before this update and with old design version of Plex I did not have any issues.

Thanks.

I have downloaded the logs, but There are a lot of files within the zip, I do not know what to report exactly for your help. Thanks.

Just attach the whole zip file. :grinning:
Actually if you are new to taking logs there may be some sensitive info in there so best not to attach directly.
Find the post from Markus101 above and attach them to a PM to him.

hahaha I am new with PLEX tracking log but not with trcking log, I know about sensitive info :smiley:

BTW, I have tried to play from my office through the websie even with a VPN working, and everything works fine. The problem only is reproduced in the LG Smart TV.

Thanks Hitsville.

Regards.
Juan.

No problem at all.
So are you getting buffering with all content, or is it limited to very high bitrate such as 4K?

I have only had my LG OLED for two or three weeks and although I am no fan of built in apps I thought I may as well check it out. To be honest it was pretty unusable with anything initially
Now any buffering seems to only occur for me at least with extremely high bitrate 4K and although it will probably never be my main client it has come a long way in those few weeks, so hopefully any issues will be ironed out.