Plex Cloud vs VPS - why we went with a VPS

@cayars said:
How are you guys dealing with the files you have encrypted through rclone on Amazon if you access the files via a different method?

Are you pulling down the files locally or to another host then using rclone to access them with encryption?

In my case it’s pretty simple. I was uploading to Gsuite in the clear and then crypting over to ACD with rclone. So, I can trash the entire ACD and not lose anything. If I had to grab it straight from ACD then, yeah, I’d have to pull it down and then decrypt.

Right now I’m just debating on alternate means of cold storage as a backup. It’s also early days, so I’ll let the ACD account sit for a while and see if this doesn’t eventually resolve itself.

@cayars said:
@per_PLEX_ed, @Chris Teasdale
I was curios due to the size of the Plex meta-data directories more than anything else. Those directories are local regardless of where the actual media is stored.

I don’t remember what it’s like to have a “normal” size installation anymore which is why I asked.

Thanks

I have about 1200movies in my collection and my PMS folder is around 10gb and I avoid downloading “extras” and set Generate video preview thumbnails to never but I do set Generate chapter thumbnails to a scheduled task. You do have to be careful on a VPS without a lot of extra local storage. You could try storing part or all of you PMS folder on your rclone mounted drive but that seems like a bad idea because it would really slow down overall Plex performance. I wish Plex would do a bit better at keeping its folder a bit more tidy.

@danjames92 said:
Stablebit CloudDrive with Google drive doesn’t look like such a bad option after all now with Amazon cutting rclone out of the mix.

Still a bit annoying I’m only getting 120 - 140Mb up on a 1Gb line though with it.

Maybe you could try creating a few different cloud drives on it? Might be seen as different connections and maybe you’ll be able to stream more Media at once?

@KarlDag said:

@danjames92 said:
Stablebit CloudDrive with Google drive doesn’t look like such a bad option after all now with Amazon cutting rclone out of the mix.

Still a bit annoying I’m only getting 120 - 140Mb up on a 1Gb line though with it.

Maybe you could try creating a few different cloud drives on it? Might be seen as different connections and maybe you’ll be able to stream more Media at once?

When talking about 120 - 140Mb, that’s the file duplication with the drivepool going on, uploading from one clouddrive to another. That’s only 17.5MB/s. I was expecting closer to 900Mb up i.e. 112.5MB/s but I don’t know. I’ve opened a thread in their forums so hopefully they will get back to me.

uploading from my vps to gdrive, with rclone copy --drive-chunk-size=128M i’m getting a max of 72MBytes/s.
the VPS has gigabit connection.
i’m pretty happy with that.

Rclone update

forum.rclone.org/t/rclone-has-been-banned-from-amazon-drive/2314

Glad I didn’t panic and dump my ACD account like some of the folks on reddit. I’m still going to point my VPS to Gsuite from now on, but it’s tough to beat the ACD price as a backup repository.

@mdnitoil said:
Glad I didn’t panic and dump my ACD account like some of the folks on reddit. I’m still going to point my VPS to Gsuite from now on, but it’s tough to beat the ACD price as a backup repository.

Same here, even if they don’t allow mounting any longer, I’d still like to keep it as the “master backup” and keep my Google accounts in sync from there using Rclone.

Hey guys,

I need some Linux help with Plexdrive mount on my new Ubuntu 16.04 server VPS.
I have it up and running with Plex and it is working pretty well. I am on the latest version of Plexdrive 3.0.0

Here is what I have in plexdrive.service file located at etc/systemd/system.multi-user.target.wants

[Unit]
Description=Plexdrive
AssertPathIsDirectory=/media/PlexDrive
After=network-online.target

[Service]
Type=simple
ExecStart=/usr/sbin/plexdrive -o allow_other -v 2 /media/PlexDrive
ExecStop=/bin/fusermount -u /media/PlexDrvie
Restart=on-abort

[Install]
WantedBy=default.target

Like I said working fine including on reboot but problem is I only have read access (even root only has read access) and I would like to be able to write and especially delete through Plex or other programs. Plexdrive installed as root and PMS installed in normal fashion as plex.

I have tried to use “–umask value” with Plexdrive but I seem to be having issue with the correct syntax when I try. Also not sure that is the flag I need to be using or if I need to use another with Fuse? Plexdrive is installed under root

Any other thoughts or suggestions on other flags to change for Plexdrive? Mainly I guess related to chunks? My VPS has 150gb of storage, 4vCpu cores and 4gb of memory. It is no powerhouse but I am mainly using it for direct play/stream.

I sort of know just enough Linux to get myself in trouble so help is appreciated.
thanks

I’m afraid that it’s a limitation of Plexdrive:

PlexDrive version 2.1.0 lists Delete files and folders as a new feature. That is mainly what I am looking to use so I can delete media through Plex. Anyone have luck getting “delete” to work in Plex with Plexdrive fuse mount?

@“Chris Teasdale” said:
PlexDrive version 2.1.0 lists Delete files and folders as a new feature. That is mainly what I am looking to use so I can delete media through Plex. Anyone have luck getting “delete” to work in Plex with Plexdrive fuse mount?

In this line

ExecStart=/usr/sbin/plexdrive -o allow_other -v 2 /media/PlexDrive```

You should add the UID and GID of the user that runs plex, and make sure that user has proper access to delete media from the mounted folder

ExecStart=/usr/sbin/plexdrive -o allow_other -v 2 --UID=XXXX --GID=XXXX /media/PlexDrive

I’ve not tried to delete through the PlexDrive mount but the above should make it work

“id -u plex returns 111” and “id -g plex returns 117” so I chown both media folder and subfolder PlexDrive to match.

sudo plexdrive -o allow_other --UID=111 --GID=117 /media/PlexDrive

plexdrive returns : unknown flag: --UID

Am I missed something?

Sorry, I think it’s case sensitive, should be --uid=111 --gid=117

Anyone using LeaseWeb for a VPS if so how is the performance?

@hthighway said:
Sorry, I think it’s case sensitive, should be --uid=111 --gid=117

Thanks, Partial success in terms of it now mounts and shows ‘plex’ as owner of files and folders but if I attempt to delete a file it still doesn’t work and reports and error in Plex. Humm

I gave up on trying to delete through the mounted PlexDrive.

How I do it now, because I was using UnionFS anyway, is mount local & PlexDrive through a UnionFS and then any deletes happen on the UnionFS mount. Either locally, if the file exists locally, or UnionFS hides the online version from view. Then once a day I run a script that looks at those hidden files and uses rclone to delete the online version.

@zuditechguy said:
Anyone using LeaseWeb for a VPS if so how is the performance?

Never used LeaseWeb but in my experience one of the most important things is peering to your VPS. Plex streaming demands much higher peak speaks. So if it says 8mbps it might need 30 even 40mbps for brief periods. Plex seams to grab a lot of data then stop and wait until it near going to “buffer” and then demand huge bandwidth/speed to catch up. Seems like a poor way of doing things.

Second if you really want a remote server than can really transcode well you need to dedicated box. A relatively cheap VPS is only going to be good for mostly direct play/stream.

Well, it was fun while it lasted… My eBay drives just went bye byes. I’m not sure what to do now, Amazon in combination with the VPS was my backup plan for Plex Cloud but I guess I have no choice now to either go local again, or get a “proper” Google account…

@per_PLEX_ed said:
Well, it was fun while it lasted… My eBay drives just went bye byes. I’m not sure what to do now, Amazon in combination with the VPS was my backup plan for Plex Cloud but I guess I have no choice now to either go local again, or get a “proper” Google account…

Same here, I had a GSuites.org account (so did you, I think you mentionned it before) and tonight it said it was disabled… Was wondering is I had been scanned for storing ripped media but I guess the whole account was disabled.

Did your other account ALSO get terminated?

Sucks, I had just created a Stablebit Clouddrive drive to test performance… Guess I’ll eventually create my own GSuite account +domain and hosting there, but funds are tight around here right now…