Rasplex 0.4.1 issues and feedback

Even so, I recommend that you use one of your faster USB sticks, as the drive speed has a significant effect on the GUI responsiveness, especially for 'first entry' into each media section (per boot session). Back when I used USB sticks for RasPlex, I made sure to always use USB3 sticks, for maximum GUI speed.

Now back to the matter of real importance here, which is whether or not the partition expansion solved your problems.

So did the problems go away ?

Best regards: dlanor

Hey Dlanor, so I see you've stopped using a USB stick with Rasplex now, I literally just set mine up for the first time today as my stuttering issue came back.

Am I better off reverting back to SD only?

Can anyone recommend an SD card that is working for them please? I was using a Transcend Class 10 and it will no longer boot or register when I insert it into my PC so I think it's dead. Did a fresh install on a Class 6, 4GB Sandisk I had lying around today and still getting stuttering issue so will need to upgrade it.

Additionally, I don't know how to SSH or use Linux commands so in the past I've had some trouble because as you know, once you remove the SD card from the Windows machine after that initial install, you can no longer see the config files etc.

Am I likely to have an issue getting my new USB stick back to FAT32 format having ran the installer on it eariler today?

Thanks for any input guys, been over a year using Rasplex now and quite a journey so far :)

Hey Dlanor, so I see you've stopped using a USB stick with Rasplex now, I literally just set mine up for the first time today as my stuttering issue came back.
 
Am I better off reverting back to SD only?

The new use of RAM-cache for poster images eliminates nearly all the speed improvements that a USB stick can offer for the GUI interactions. And it never had any effect at all on playback (since playback doesn't involve access to the storage partition).

So your use of USB isn't going to help anything except the initial entry into a large library section (once per session), as that does involve fetching a lot of images from the pre-cache area in the storage partition. But even that improvement will only be noticeable for fairly large media sections. (Meaning hundreds of posters.)
 

Can anyone recommend an SD card that is working for them please? I was using a Transcend Class 10 and it will no longer boot or register when I insert it into my PC so I think it's dead.

That is of course possible, but it might just be corrupted. Windows usually has trouble 'seeing' a drive if the partition table is corrupted. But you might be able to clean it out and reformat using a partitioning tool. If the disk manager of Windows can't do it then the "Paragon Partition Manager" might still be able to handle it. It has saved some cards of mine from a similar fate.

As for the Transcend brand of cards, it's one of my favourites. I have several of those, which I use both for Raspberry Pi and Banana Pi (a similar small-box computer). But those cards are both Class10 and UHS-1 certified, which makes a big difference.
 

It's only with Class 10 cards that you can safely use overclocking, and overclocking is one of the things that might eliminate your playback stutters.

Did a fresh install on a Class 6, 4GB Sandisk I had lying around today and still getting stuttering issue so will need to upgrade it.

The SD card should not affect playback, but the Class 6 specs may cause general unreliability and crashing, especially if you use any form of overclocking.
 

Additionally, I don't know how to SSH or use Linux commands so in the past I've had some trouble because as you know, once you remove the SD card from the Windows machine after that initial install, you can no longer see the config files etc.

Actually there are several ways of modifying the files after initial install.

The simplest way is probably to move the card back to your PC's card reader, and access the FAT32 partition on it again.
The "config.txt" file is read from that partition at every RPi boot, so new changes made to the file will take effect.
I have done this several times to add overclocking to cards that I originally prepared without any overclock settings.

Other ways include not only SSH protocol (for which I use the Windows program "PuTTY.exe"), but also SMB protocol (normal Windows fileshare access). But both these methods require some knowledge about how to configure and access stuff under Linux.
 

Am I likely to have an issue getting my new USB stick back to FAT32 format having ran the installer on it eariler today?

A simple 'Format' command will not be enough, since that would only affect the first partition (the tiny FAT32 portion).

You need to repartition the drive, and Windows will sometimes be 'stingy' about it. If the built-in disk manager won't do it you may need to turn to the "Paragon Partition Manager" again. (The same tool I recommend for expanding the ext4 partition on USB sticks used with RasPlex.) This can be used to delete all existing partitions and then recreate a new FAT32 partition using the entire drive space.
 

Thanks for any input guys, been over a year using Rasplex now and quite a journey so far :)

Yes, RasPlex has changed a lot over the last year, getting better all the time :)

Best regards: dlanor

The new use of RAM-cache for poster images eliminates nearly all the speed improvements that a USB stick can offer for the GUI interactions. And it never had any effect at all on playback (since playback doesn't involve access to the storage partition).

So your use of USB isn't going to help anything except the initial entry into a large library section (once per session), as that does involve fetching a lot of images from the pre-cache area in the storage partition. But even that improvement will only be noticeable for fairly large media sections. (Meaning hundreds of posters.)
 

That is of course possible, but it might just be corrupted. Windows usually has trouble 'seeing' a drive if the partition table is corrupted. But you might be able to clean it out and reformat using a partitioning tool. If the disk manager of Windows can't do it then the "Paragon Partition Manager" might still be able to handle it. It has saved some cards of mine from a similar fate.

As for the Transcend brand of cards, it's one of my favourites. I have several of those, which I use both for Raspberry Pi and Banana Pi (a similar small-box computer). But those cards are both Class10 and UHS-1 certified, which makes a big difference.
 

It's only with Class 10 cards that you can safely use overclocking, and overclocking is one of the things that might eliminate your playback stutters.

The SD card should not affect playback, but the Class 6 specs may cause general unreliability and crashing, especially if you use any form of overclocking.
 

Actually there are several ways of modifying the files after initial install.

The simplest way is probably to move the card back to your PC's card reader, and access the FAT32 partition on it again.
The "config.txt" file is read from that partition at every RPi boot, so new changes made to the file will take effect.
I have done this several times to add overclocking to cards that I originally prepared without any overclock settings.

Other ways include not only SSH protocol (for which I use the Windows program "PuTTY.exe"), but also SMB protocol (normal Windows fileshare access). But both these methods require some knowledge about how to configure and access stuff under Linux.
 

A simple 'Format' command will not be enough, since that would only affect the first partition (the tiny FAT32 portion).

You need to repartition the drive, and Windows will sometimes be 'stingy' about it. If the built-in disk manager won't do it you may need to turn to the "Paragon Partition Manager" again. (The same tool I recommend for expanding the ext4 partition on USB sticks used with RasPlex.) This can be used to delete all existing partitions and then recreate a new FAT32 partition using the entire drive space.
 

Yes, RasPlex has changed a lot over the last year, getting better all the time :)

Best regards: dlanor

Dlanor so helpful as always, thank you for taking the time to reply to all my questions. I am going to take another look at that partitioning tool, previously tried it with little success however that was for another issue.

Have ordered the same SC card as you scanned a picture of in the past we will see if that stops my stuttering issue along with another overclock.

Will report back again just wanted to post a thank you!

Hi guys,

since 0.4.1 I have the problem that Rasplex tries to talk to my server (PMS 0.9.9.16) regularly (about every five minutes) even when there is no activity (Raspley is on the home screen).

This is problematic since this causes my Plex server to be woken up all the time (I have configured auto-WOL on access to my Plex port).

Turning my Raspley Pi off in order to solve the problem is not an option because it is connected via WiFi and thus cannot be woken over LAN.

I couldn't find anything useful in the Rasplex settings regarding this topic.

Does anyone have a clue on where I should look?

Is this just a new feature I wasn't aware of or do you need more information (log files, etc.)?

Thanks for your help!

I've seen two additional codecs mentioned on the forum, one example below, how do we go about installing these please?

In order for me to playback BluRay's I had to set it to maximum over clocking!

arm_freq=1000
core_freq=500
sdram_freq=500
over_voltage=6
 
Also make sure you have the optional VC-1 codec installed.
I use "The Darknight" BluRay as a benchmark and so far it has been playing back fine!
I do however always re-install from scratch instead of an auto update with each new update. Kinda leaves a lot of the guess work out;)

EDIT: I've found the licenses for sale on the official Rasp Pi store so I assume this is what people are referring to.

Source : http://www.raspberrypi.org/new-video-features/

Hi guys,

I've been testing the issue with the 'mode not supported' and to my embarrasment I found out that it had to do with a faulty hdmi-cable. I replaced it, upgraded to 0.4.1 and no more 'mode not supported' errors anymore.

Thanks for all your replies and tips.

Keep up the good work.

Regards,

Wessel

Hi guys,

since 0.4.1 I have the problem that Rasplex tries to talk to my server (PMS 0.9.9.16) regularly (about every five minutes) even when there is no activity (Raspley is on the home screen).

This is problematic since this causes my Plex server to be woken up all the time (I have configured auto-WOL on access to my Plex port).

Turning my Raspley Pi off in order to solve the problem is not an option because it is connected via WiFi and thus cannot be woken over LAN.

I couldn't find anything useful in the Rasplex settings regarding this topic.

Does anyone have a clue on where I should look?

Is this just a new feature I wasn't aware of or do you need more information (log files, etc.)?

Thanks for your help!

Hi, I too am experiencing the same issue, periodically RasPlex accesses PMS which in turn results in a WOL packet being sent which wakes it up.  As a result I've had to resort to excluding my RasPlex's IP from my WOL script and wake PMS manually or via a WOL iPhone app for now which works but is not wife or kid friendly.

Really interested to see if anyone has any thoughts/ideas on what could be the cause of this...

@trent.cromer:
@doppelgngr:
Please check if PHT on a PC causes the same ‘Wake on LAN’ issue if that PHT version is left running 24/7 on a different computer from the one running PMS.

RasPlex is intended to be a direct port of PHT to the RPi hardware (currently based on PHT 1.2.2 sources). So if the behaviour exists in a PC version of the program, then it is the official PHT project that should fix the issue first, after which the fix will be ported into subsequent RasPlex releases.

But if this unwanted behaviour exists only in RasPlex, but not in ‘upstream’ PHT, then it needs to be fixed as part of the RasPlex project. So we really need to know if you get the same problem when using PHT on a normal PC in the same way as you normally use RasPlex.

Btw:
I assume that you guys have already tried other ways of reducing unwanted RasPlex traffic, such as turning off unused services in the submenu “System Settings” > “Services”. That is where you can turn various OpenELEC services on/off, such as Samba, SSH etc.

Another important setting that can cause unwanted traffic for PHT on any platform is the submenu entry:
Preferences > System > Advanced > "Allow Plex collect anonymous data to improve your experience"

If that entry is ‘ticked’, which is a default setting for PHT, then traffic may occur at any time for anything that the PHT team found worthy of reporting, which may include long periods of non-use (we have no info on what gets reported). So I suggest that you disable that entry to see if this affects your problem in any way. Note that this entry is not visible in the opening state of that submenu. You will need to scroll the entry list to see it, so you can change it.

Best regards: dlanor

It is just FANTASTIC !

thank you so much.

this is great.

everything I could want works fine.

merci.

This is an amazing release - thank you very much!

One little bug is left, but it is only noticable after you boot your rasplex. On first load the default chosen category does not display "recently added" and "on deck", it simply stays blank. Only if you change categories it gets loaded - this is only a little bug, but since I turn off my pi everytime I'm done, it would be great if you could fix it.

Thanks alot for your great work!

This is an amazing release - thank you very much!
 
One little bug is left, but it is only noticable after you boot your rasplex. On first load the default chosen category does not display "recently added" and "on deck", it simply stays blank. Only if you change categories it gets loaded - this is only a little bug, but since I turn off my pi everytime I'm done, it would be great if you could fix it.
 
Thanks alot for your great work!


This is not a bug, it's designed that way, the default selection on boot is Search, try searching the forum for reasons why, it's been explained numerous times.

Regards

@trent.cromer:
@doppelgngr:
Please check if PHT on a PC causes the same 'Wake on LAN' issue if that PHT version is left running 24/7 on a different computer from the one running PMS.

RasPlex is intended to be a direct port of PHT to the RPi hardware (currently based on PHT 1.2.2 sources). So if the behaviour exists in a PC version of the program, then it is the official PHT project that should fix the issue first, after which the fix will be ported into subsequent RasPlex releases.

But if this unwanted behaviour exists only in RasPlex, but not in 'upstream' PHT, then it needs to be fixed as part of the RasPlex project. So we really need to know if you get the same problem when using PHT on a normal PC in the same way as you normally use RasPlex.

Btw:
I assume that you guys have already tried other ways of reducing unwanted RasPlex traffic, such as turning off unused services in the submenu "System Settings" > "Services". That is where you can turn various OpenELEC services on/off, such as Samba, SSH etc.

Another important setting that can cause unwanted traffic for PHT on any platform is the submenu entry:
Preferences > System > Advanced > "Allow Plex collect anonymous data to improve your experience"

If that entry is 'ticked', which is a default setting for PHT, then traffic may occur at any time for anything that the PHT team found worthy of reporting, which may include long periods of non-use (we have no info on what gets reported). So I suggest that you disable that entry to see if this affects your problem in any way. Note that this entry is not visible in the opening state of that submenu. You will need to scroll the entry list to see it, so you can change it.

Best regards: dlanor

Hi dlanor,

Thanks for the feedback/suggestions, i have tried everything including all of the above to reduce unwanted traffic without success.

I can however confirm that this unwanted behavior does exist upstream in PHT for Windows therefore this isn't a RasPlex specific issue.  I've looked into the debug logs and it appears there is a timer that is fired every minute which is opening a connection to PMS for some reason.  I will look to post this in the PHT for Windows forum and report back for others interested in the outcome.

Thanks

Trent

I can however confirm that this unwanted behavior does exist upstream in PHT for Windows therefore this is a RasPlex specific issue.  

If this issue exists in PHT for Windows how can it be a Rasplex specific issue?

Regards

If this issue exists in PHT for Windows how can it be a Rasplex specific issue?

It's not, was a typo...sorry...post edited!

Hey guys,

Was hoping for some advice, I have a 5-6 year old Samsung TV, and was using the RPi with rasplex running on 0.4.0-rc4 for ages working perfectly fine with CEC.

Upgraded the other day to 0.4.1, had to do this flashing the card as the auto update stopped working at rc4! loaded it on the TV and was prompted with the setup prompt, used the remote (CEC) to go through the sign in process and pre cache etc then shut down the RPi and TV, when I loaded it up later the CEC adapter appears to load and I get the usual message in the bottom right hand corner of the screen but no commands are being passed through.

I have tried flashing the SD card again with 0.4.1, I then completely wiped the card and installed it fresh again with 0.4.1, then I tried rolling back to 0.4.0-rc4 and none of them are working with CEC!

I haven't changed anything on the hardware side, all the same port etc, not sure why it wont work anymore??

Is there a way of forcefully removing and re-initializing the CEC adapter/elements in rasplex?

other than this issue 0.4.1 klooks great, much faster interface :-)

keep up the great work guys.

This is not a bug, it's designed that way, the default selection on boot is Search, try searching the forum for reasons why, it's been explained numerous times.

Regards


Only that it does not start with search as default section.It starts with the last entry on my list (Tv shows atm) :(

Hey guys

i just updated media Server to last release 0.9.11.1.

i did also an update to rasplex 4.1 with an clean new flash on a new Class 10 SD.

While other Clients work fine i have trouble with rasplex.

Most the time all menue items Show "Suchen". After a while they change to the normal items "films, Music" etc. But by selecting those items nothing happens. Sametimes it changes back to "Suchen". (I use german language Suchen=search)

Does anybody else has trouble like this?

Thanks

Hey guys
 
i just updated media Server to last release 0.9.11.1.
i did also an update to rasplex 4.1 with an clean new flash on a new Class 10 SD.
 
While other Clients work fine i have trouble with rasplex.
 
Most the time all menue items Show "Suchen". After a while they change to the normal items "films, Music" etc. But by selecting those items nothing happens. Sametimes it changes back to "Suchen". (I use german language Suchen=search)

Having the entire menu populated by "Search" strings (or "Suchen" in german) is quite normal for an initial launch without server connection, and it is also normal for this to recur if the server connection is lost, since all other entries in the main menu are dependent on information from a server.

So if you get this state sporadically after connection it means that your connection is unreliable.

That would also explain why using other entries while visible doesn't work right, since use of any of those menu entries implies further communication with the server, which evidently fails.

Why this happens is hard to say without more information.
So we need to know more about how your RPi is connected to the server.

I strongly recommend having a wired Ethernet connection from the RPi to the same router or network switch to which your PMS server is also connected the same way (or just from RPi to router if you're accessing a remote server over Internet). Wireless connections can also work well, but are subject to interference both from surrounding WiFi LANs and from non-WiFi electrical noise. There's also varying compatibility between WiFi dongles and the RPi OpenELEC OS used for RasPlex.

Best regards: dlanor

hello dlanor,

thank you very much for help.

Today I tryed to trackdown the systematicly. A prefere wired Ethernet at all. So my Pi is also LAN connected.

-First I did a reset at the switch. no sucess.

-then I removed a small Switch beetwen main swich and pi. no success.

-Because i did not believe that Hyper-V Hostserver causes that Problem, I skippted booting the whole host.

-Finaly I rebooted the win7 vdi with running Mediaserver.

That seemed to sove the problem !

I don't know weather a win7 Network issue or same socketproblems with mediaserver after upgrading were the reason.

I will test now same day.

By the way: I did two know Images in the last day. Both are flashed identily. While one (now) works fine the second one does not switch to correct display Resolution. I must have todo samething with first initialisation.

While reading issues above i assume this belongs to the new display driver in 0.4.1. I never had such before. Anyway as Long, as I have one working SD I am happy ;-) 

best regards: urban

hello,

my network problems ar back today.

But meanwhile I am shure it is not related to 0.4.1 this tread is the wrong place. I'll open one in GitHub Issues

Thanks so far