Roku New Experience Release Update

Is that not what he’s gonna have to do if he moves on from Plex? Because if someone chooses to go Emby or Jellyfin they have to setup a server from scratch again, move all of his friends family to that ecosystem and learn the ins/outs of that specific server software (Emby and Jellyfin are not as straightforward as Plex).

And I’m speaking from experience (someone who moved to Emby and Jellyfin briefly) buying a new client device is absolutely the easier option. Redoing all collections, custom metadata and sorting is much more time consuming than just finding a client/player that worked the way I wanted. That is the benefit of having a Plex server you can find a client even on a budget or even free that would work better.

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Except ALL clients are going to eventually end up with this sh!tty layout. I just moved over to Emby to test and have 2 users testing with the same devices they already have and haven’t run into any issues.

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I think there are a lot more server owners out there that are more basic and just use the built-in metadata/collections. I know for myself and the handful of friends that watch my stuff, they could really care less about all of that - they just want to sit down and watch a movie - not trying to be Netflix.

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As someone with 3 of the most non tech savvy people you can find on my server (and one actually disabled and much older who can’t use his hands well) I get it. I’ve been between jobs in the past with no money to fix my clients and players the way I wanted to as well. But that doesn’t change the fact that all users can find a better client/player device when they are able if one device is not what they want. Plex does not only exist on Roku.

I 100% disagree. And in my view that is quite a toxic way to look at business as an owner or customer. I don’t want to support a company that folds to bullies and I also don’t want to support a company that never listens.

They did actually add music back to this new experience and rightly so, which happened rather quickly. So it’s not like they aren’t listening, they just have goals to reach and designs they want to see move forward. Plex have the insanely tough task of keeping Plex modern and moving forward, while keeping as many users happy as possible in the process. And that is not an easy thing to do in 2025.

Maybe so but my OCD would not allow that at all lol.

Cool maybe Emby is the way for you and your users. That is the awesome thing about having choices you are free to choose how to proceed. I just don’t fancy paying Emby $55 a year or $120 lifetime just because I don’t like a UI update. I would just grab Kodi or a different client/player instead personally.

To each their own though! It’s not just one way to use Plex which is all I was saying. Devs took way too long to fix the Apple TV app so I moved to Infuse on those devices. Xbox Series X app had green screen artifacts on VC-1 blu-ray rips so I moved to Kodi and PM4K on that device.

I used to use Kodi way back in the day and still would, but don’t think it works well for remote users?

I’m on Apple TV devices myself (with Infuse), so the move from Plex to Emby doesn’t change much for me lol.

Honestly the main reason I’m moving over is I like that with Emby I have zero accounts on their system so everything is truly private. Plex moving more and more to “social” stuff doesn’t appeal to me.

Plus they seem to listen to their users…

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This is a major hurdle for me. Plex’s smart collections and Home Screen customization using those smart collections is something that isn’t on Emby or Jellyfin. My Home Screen in Plex is mostly custom rows - which actually makes the new UI less cumbersome for me because I rarely leave the Home Screen (the extra steps to browse a library don’t come up much for me or other users).

Not that I couldn’t live without it, but we’ve gotten used to this function and it’d be a QoL drop more annoying than the UI changes to lose that function. BUT my setup is definitely more unique than others’ based on some of the discussion around this stuff and for most people, switching would be pretty painless.

Emby v5 is supposed to get smart collections feature so I’ll probably look at it again then (if not sooner if Plex makes the UI even worse).

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I think that would depend on the internet speed of your server as Kodi will Direct Play everything like Infuse. I have a sibling that uses it and he seems to have no issues.

This was honestly a + for me when I was thinking of fully making the switch. Not a fan of the social features either and like you I’m already using Infuse so that doesn’t change much on the Apple TV side of things. Privacy is always a concern especially when it comes to various breaches Plex has encountered over the years.

Somewhat…lol they have a lot of long requested features that have yet to be implemented as well. Lingering bugs and the Apple TV native app is worse than Plex. And Jellyfin is FOSS which has pros and cons. Less overall support there.

Hard to find a solution that ticks every box! But Plex for me (at least for now) is ticking enough boxes that I still find it the best solution at the moment. I don’t find this new UI as bad as people make it seem.

Even if you fix the aforementioned bugs, this update still blows. The UI interface is crap and the layout appears to have been designed by a ■■■■■■. Thanks for ruining what used to be a very good product.

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It wouldn’t be so bad with the media bar on top if we had the option to only have our libraries on top! Right now I can’t even remove On Demand and Discover!

Also give us the option to revert to the original layout!

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What exactly has Plex transformed into that is so different? I’ve been a lifetime Plex Pass user since 2012 and was using XBMC before that. Plex has changed UI’s many times over the years but at no point has Plex ever stopped being a media server or transformed into anything that would make my media server unusable to me and my family.

I’ve been a user since 2014. I don’t see what that has to do with any of the points any of us are making. Plex has not had any drastic changes in UI since then (until now) except the 2019 debacle that they were roasted for and reversed direction on. At the time, I highly respected the humility it took for Plex to accept that they messed up, though I feel they really wanted to do then what they’re doing now.

So I get not liking a UI or not getting along with the design of the new app. Indeed it can be frustrating until the app is more fully featured. But the biggest + about Plex is you can use other clients if the Roku UI is not the experience you want.

Or Plex can pull their fingers out of their ears and listen to the user base. Like I told robin58, we’re peers here, and I have no reason to change course just because you don’t like what I’m saying. Unless you are part of Plex and are not a peer - they were caught on Reddit posing as users to subvert user expectations already. Don’t think people aren’t paying attention to that, either.

Aside from that, what other clients are you talking about? Plex doesn’t officially allow third party clients, and Plex’s stated goal is to create a new unified interface across all platforms. There is no refuge in the Plex ecosystem, and even if there were, I’m supposed to switch to a new platform for a single app? That’s a deluded expectation.

Using third party solutions is asking for a more broken experience periodically as they lag behind changes in Plex’s API. That’s not a realistic long term solution either.

You didn’t pay for the UI of the Roku to never change. And instead of moving on from Plex wouldn’t it be easier to find a client that works and looks the way you want? Android TV, Kodi, Infuse on Apple TV. Many different clients with many different UI’s can be used with Plex especially if you know what you’re doing with Kodi which is still by far a better player than any native Plex apps.

Once again, the alternative UIs out there are in the process of being replaced, and I’m not switching to an Apple device and trading in more software restrictions on top of the software restrictions encroaching in on Plex. Your proposed solution is not a solution and reeks of the same authoritarian behavior we can expect from Plex themselves.

I paid for a UI I had control over - something Plex has advertised and subverted. Since I’ve invested in Plex:

  • Plex has introduced additional content not from my server, made it appear as if it’s from my collection, and wrapped it in ads. I just had to answer a message today from my sister regarding why I was advertising to her and when I was going to add the rest of a series I don’t even have and can’t legally obtain.
  • Plex has deprecated their plugin API.
  • Plex has created a more clumsy UI that I absolutely hate, and despite your assertion, I am going to continue to complain about that - I’ll even complain about it more because you’re trying to silence me and people who share my view.
  • Even if I were willing to use the new UI, it locks up on three out of four tablets I own right on the setup screen. Who built that? What is it doing on the setup screen that I can’t even tap the continue/right arrow button? So, now the media server experience that I paid for with a mobile client that I paid separately for doesn’t even work. Don’t tell me I got what I paid for - I’m still waiting for it to just work again.
  • I used to have subtitles working. Guess what’s broken for the third time on my phone since this update?
  • And again - I paid for a media server to run as a server on a server. I can’t even do that because Plex decided to block several IP ranges of datacenters preventing me from trying to save on electric costs, heat, and fan noise in my home. Not to mention trying to work around an Internet connection at the time that was barely better than dial-up. Don’t even get me started on Plex hiding that communication for several days while people here in the forums fought server registration issues and had to be privately messaged by Plex devs to explain what was going on. Plex didn’t even have the decency to communicate this change publicly and wasted the productivity of who knows how many people.

Don’t tell me I still have the same experience today I used to have. If you’re satisfied, that’s fine, but you have no right to try and override my dissatisfaction.

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I can post petty images of quotes, too:

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Nice try MrPlexEmployee

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If you remove the online services in your account settings those’ll be gone from every client. This has been true for years now, but you could remove a lot of it via client options until New Experience so it wasn’t that well promoted (particularly as Plex doesn’t want you turning that off really). Doing it this way will actually remove even more of it than the client options did.

Go here: https://app.plex.tv/desktop/#!/settings/online-media-sources turn all those services off.

Here’s a Topic someone put together with screenshot and more detail: At least a little help for Roku Users

Once you turn all those off, Plex is pretty much “local only”.

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Plex has underwent many changes over the last decade UIs included. I’m saying that I’ve been around since 2010 -2012 because “Plex of old” had skins and themes so you could change the UI completely to your liking. I was around the old forums before it was changed to this system and it had a pretty lively 3rd party community that would make new themes and all kinds of custom UIs for the players. That is one of the big features that made me fall in love with the Plex ecosystem. So when themes and skins went away bringing in Plex Home Theatre and years later replacing PHT with Plex Media Player (PMP) I was just as livid as you are now. So please don’t think I’m dismissing your criticism, I’m just saying it may not be worth the effort to push for something they clearly may not reverse (the UI) and building further resentment towards Plex if it’s something you really enjoy. I’ve been there done that and IMO resistance is futile.

We are absolutely peers and I have no issue with what you’re saying honestly. As a peer and fellow user I’m just suggesting that you may have better experiences with Plex if you try other platforms and devices/clients because that is led me and my friends/family to years of hassle free daily usage of Plex for my personal media collection. Isn’t that the ultimate goal?

Plex does allow your media server to connect to 3rd party clients. Infuse for Apple TV is the most stable hassle free Plex player currently available native or not. Only tied with PM4K which is an add-on developed for Kodi and updated constantly by an awesome member of the community in these forums.

It’s actually quite the opposite. 3rd party solutions like Infuse or PM4K offer a more stable experience, better audio/video codec support, better overall media playback etc. The actual players are far more advanced than native Plex clients. And that is not even up for debate.

Not true. Infuse and PM4K work alongside Plex but are completely independent of any UI changes Plex make. And if you use an android TV device you can side load the last available version before the UI change and keep that running and stay on that version. Roku has way more restrictions than the Apple TV and forces ads on users even on the more premium Roku ultra devices which I have. Apple is far more consumer friendly than Roku IMO.

I am not trying to silence you at all. Just because someone offers a differing opinion doesn’t mean they are trying to silence you. Like you said we are peers and fellow users here and the end goal for most of us is to be able to use our own personal media without issue.

So absolutely voice your criticisms and complaints, but in the end what does continuing to complain solve for your Plex setup if Plex does not rollback the UI? If you really hate the UI you have a few options. Switch to Emby or Jellyfin, or switch to a different client/player with a UI you find acceptable.

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At least on Apple you are not forced to view ads on devices you pay for and forced to automatically download all app updates. Roku is the ultimate authoritarian device. God just testing this new UI update made me realize how much I actually hate Roku lol. They make apple seem like saints https://community.roku.com/discussions/tv-and-players/we-need-an-option-to-turn-off-auto-updates/993797

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Testing the new app on Roku ultra for the last few hours a bit deeper and my observations are:

  1. PGS subtitles still make both video and audio transcode instead of direct play. Without the subtitles active the same video will direct play. Not sure if a Plex issue or Roku Ultra limitation.
  2. VC-1 and MPEG2 files (which I have from older blu-ray remuxes) will also transcode and VC-1 in particular seems to cause some random crashes within the app.
  3. 4K HDR HEVC seems to be working fine, I even tested some very high bit rate files which is a good sign.
  4. Overall the “iPhone notch” where your libraries are don’t seem to be the best design choice for TV interfaces. Coming from apple I don’t find it to be a huge issue but I think pinning the libraries at the top of the interface would be a better option if you are set on having libraries at the top of the UI.
  5. On Roku the interface feels a bit sluggish. But I’ve been using Apple TV and Ugoos AM6B+ for a while now and it could be that I’m accustomed to snappy interfaces and Roku in general is a bit slower/sluggish in comparison.

@Diaruemnus all of the above issues I listed would make using Plex a true pain in my a$$ again so hope you understand that’s all I meant by suggesting to choose a better client/player. I love watching movies and all of the above are just obstacles that prevent me and family from doing so peacefully. Infuse on ATV or PM4K on Ugoos AM6B+ have none of these issues (nor does the native Plex app on Shield Pro).

So from one user to another I feel your frustration and wish you best of luck on your Plex/media server journey :slight_smile: Sucks that Plex on Roku still has those same old annoyances that make watching all kinds of movie with various audio/video codecs sort of inconvenient. Do wish they focused on better playback instead of a new UI. Would make all the difference!

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I cured it by replacing roku with firestick, got normal plex again (for now)

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I am with you100%. My parents are not tech savvy, and this “update” kills any chance that they can navigate the libraries.

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On point 5, the previous iteration of Plex on Roku was perfectly snappy and responsive, this has been a massive downgrade on every level. Metadata takes ages to load while browsing, changing watched status takes several seconds each time. Not being argumentative, just confirming that it’s not your imagination.
My Ultra and Express 4k both lock up completely until quitting the app if navigating through libraries too quickly.

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