Reap and I spent 3 hours on Facetime working this problem.
We’ve been able to conclude:
It’s the ISP’s new service
Traceroute (tracert on windows) gives different results based on machine from the same home IP address – meaning it’s MAC access based routing / load balancing at the ISP.
Same PMS version on both machines: MacOS works, Synology fails.
We found other information which Reap is going to address with the HelpDesk staff.
Alright.
So I called my ISP (Unitymedia/Vodafone Germany) yesterday and told them what we discovered. And by them I mean three different people. The whole story. None of them seemed to get what I was talking about. One of them just replied “So you can’t receive E-Mails?” WHAT?! The third person passed my topic to her supervisor which called me today. He knew what I meant and passed the information to the technicians, they will call me back as soon as they figured out what is going wrong here.
Question to @HaNeTheBerG and @preacha
You guys also upgraded to “CableMax 1000” at Unitymedia/Vodafone? And are you living in the area of Frankfurt or in Hessen by chance?
I upgraded to Cable Max 1000 and also switched to an AVM 6660 FB. Have the same - or at least a maximum similar) Problem.
So Spot on this calls and Your topic here.
// only difference is: I used xpenology on my nas, which is synology ok an unsupported machine. Tomorrow is my d-day and I will migrate 60 tb to unraid as new OS. So maybe this issue is fixed since it’s - at least partly - tied to synology OS ?
From the sounds of your conversation, “Es musste gefiert worden sein?”
All: inside joke. Reap and I were sharing Englisch versus Deutsch and all the things we do and don’t say in the other languages while we were comparing to what one should and shouldn’t do with networking infrastructure lol
@ChuckPa thanks for closing. I think information should be gathered here.
Coming to traceroute : Im just printing out my results as they are coming from my terminal (in order of execution):
from my synology NAS:
admin@syno:~$ traceroute -m 100 www.plex.tv
traceroute to www.plex.tv (104.18.156.41), 100 hops max, 60 byte packets
1 fritz.box (192.168.178.1) 1.096 ms 1.092 ms 1.089 ms
2 ipbcc21cfe.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de (188.194.28.xxx) 13.176 ms 19.112 ms 19.207 ms
3 ip5886de86.static.kabel-deutschland.de (88.134.222.134) 24.235 ms 24.237 ms 24.232 ms
4 ip5886bbb0.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de (88.134.187.176) 21.003 ms 20.965 ms 20.995 ms
5 145.254.3.102 (145.254.3.102) 23.191 ms 23.184 ms 23.177 ms
6 145.254.2.201 (145.254.2.201) 23.135 ms 19.127 ms 19.103 ms
7 de-cix-munich.as13335.net (80.81.202.9) 19.109 ms 13.968 ms 12.708 ms
8 104.18.156.41 (104.18.156.41) 17.755 ms 15.911 ms 17.134 ms
admin@syno:~$ traceroute -m 100 www.plex.tv
traceroute to www.plex.tv (104.18.156.41), 100 hops max, 60 byte packets
1 fritz.box (192.168.178.1) 0.928 ms 0.922 ms 0.916 ms
2 ipbcc21cfe.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de (188.194.28.xxx) 26.072 ms 29.661 ms 29.660 ms
3 ip5886de86.static.kabel-deutschland.de (88.134.222.134) 17.505 ms 19.274 ms 23.165 ms
4 ip5886bbb0.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de (88.134.187.176) 23.167 ms 23.164 ms 23.159 ms
5 145.254.3.102 (145.254.3.102) 23.153 ms 23.149 ms 23.139 ms
6 145.254.2.201 (145.254.2.201) 23.140 ms 19.495 ms 19.479 ms
7 de-cix-munich.as13335.net (80.81.202.9) 19.477 ms 14.707 ms 16.098 ms
8 104.18.156.41 (104.18.156.41) 17.095 ms 18.586 ms 17.071 ms
admin@syno:~$ traceroute -m 100 plex.tv
traceroute to plex.tv (99.80.231.223), 100 hops max, 60 byte packets
1 fritz.box (192.168.178.1) 1.246 ms 1.243 ms 1.238 ms
2 ipbcc21cfe.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de (188.194.28.xxx) 12.292 ms 19.467 ms 22.886 ms
3 ip5886de86.static.kabel-deutschland.de (88.134.222.134) 24.357 ms 24.358 ms 24.354 ms
4 ip5886bbb0.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de (88.134.187.176) 24.348 ms 24.344 ms 24.333 ms
5 145.254.3.102 (145.254.3.102) 26.252 ms 26.249 ms 26.246 ms
6 145.254.2.201 (145.254.2.201) 26.236 ms 20.312 ms 20.324 ms
7 52.46.166.24 (52.46.166.24) 22.212 ms 18.900 ms 14.311 ms
8 52.93.41.132 (52.93.41.132) 12.290 ms 22.590 ms 22.574 ms
9 52.93.41.77 (52.93.41.77) 24.092 ms 52.93.41.95 (52.93.41.95) 19.307 ms 52.93.41.113 (52.93.41.113) 22.555 ms
10 52.93.128.141 (52.93.128.141) 52.193 ms 54.239.42.24 (54.239.42.24) 45.807 ms 52.93.128.141 (52.93.128.141) 52.065 ms
11 150.222.241.24 (150.222.241.24) 51.923 ms 52.93.134.82 (52.93.134.82) 51.906 ms 150.222.242.186 (150.222.242.186) 45.776 ms
12 52.93.134.168 (52.93.134.168) 48.620 ms 150.222.242.43 (150.222.242.43) 47.017 ms 150.222.240.172 (150.222.240.172) 41.939 ms
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admin@syno:~$ traceroute -m 100 plex.tv
traceroute to plex.tv (99.81.213.165), 100 hops max, 60 byte packets
1 fritz.box (192.168.178.1) 1.078 ms 1.070 ms 1.120 ms
2 ipbcc21cfe.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de (188.194.28.xxx) 15.027 ms 19.269 ms 20.959 ms
3 ip5886de9e.static.kabel-deutschland.de (88.134.222.158) 22.521 ms 22.521 ms 22.517 ms
4 ip5886bbb5.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de (88.134.187.181) 22.529 ms 22.512 ms 22.510 ms
5 145.254.3.100 (145.254.3.100) 22.516 ms 22.578 ms 22.575 ms
6 145.254.2.185 (145.254.2.185) 22.513 ms 18.494 ms 18.535 ms
7 52.46.166.24 (52.46.166.24) 18.521 ms 11.241 ms 15.684 ms
8 52.93.41.84 (52.93.41.84) 17.438 ms 52.93.41.116 (52.93.41.116) 12.062 ms 52.93.41.132 (52.93.41.132) 20.758 ms
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11 150.222.242.186 (150.222.242.186) 49.475 ms 150.222.240.234 (150.222.240.234) 46.494 ms 150.222.242.186 (150.222.242.186) 46.489 ms
12 52.93.133.232 (52.93.133.232) 50.835 ms 150.222.241.159 (150.222.241.159) 54.356 ms 52.729 ms
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admin@syno:~$
from my macbook:
~ traceroute -m 100 www.plex.tv ✔ 23:49:59
❯ traceroute -m 100 www.plex.tv
traceroute: Warning: www.plex.tv has multiple addresses; using 104.18.156.41
traceroute to www.plex.tv.cdn.cloudflare.net (104.18.156.41), 100 hops max, 52 byte packets
1 fritz.box (192.168.178.1) 0.645 ms 1.248 ms 1.656 ms
2 ipbcc21cfe.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de (188.194.28.xxx) 15.211 ms 13.909 ms 15.555 ms
3 ip5886de86.static.kabel-deutschland.de (88.134.222.134) 8.122 ms 8.315 ms 13.061 ms
4 ip5886bbb0.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de (88.134.187.176) 15.969 ms 9.364 ms 10.589 ms
5 145.254.3.102 (145.254.3.102) 10.046 ms 10.556 ms 11.187 ms
6 145.254.2.201 (145.254.2.201) 12.813 ms 10.357 ms 10.304 ms
7 de-cix-munich.as13335.net (80.81.202.9) 12.278 ms 38.625 ms 11.549 ms
8 104.18.156.41 (104.18.156.41) 13.175 ms 9.536 ms 13.706 ms
❯ traceroute -m 100 plex.tv
traceroute: Warning: plex.tv has multiple addresses; using 99.80.231.223
traceroute to plex.tv (99.80.231.223), 100 hops max, 52 byte packets
1 fritz.box (192.168.178.1) 1.277 ms 1.311 ms 1.539 ms
2 ipbcc21cfe.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de (188.194.28.xxx) 11.071 ms 8.246 ms 11.810 ms
3 ip5886de86.static.kabel-deutschland.de (88.134.222.134) 9.610 ms 10.266 ms 7.512 ms
4 ip5886bbb0.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de (88.134.187.176) 12.528 ms 10.518 ms 12.583 ms
5 145.254.3.102 (145.254.3.102) 12.134 ms 10.876 ms 10.334 ms
6 145.254.2.201 (145.254.2.201) 12.326 ms 10.337 ms 12.040 ms
7 52.46.166.24 (52.46.166.24) 13.445 ms 10.520 ms 10.375 ms
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~ INT ✘ 5m 28s 23:55:34
❯ traceroute -m 100 plex.tv
traceroute: Warning: plex.tv has multiple addresses; using 99.81.213.165
traceroute to plex.tv (99.81.213.165), 100 hops max, 52 byte packets
1 fritz.box (192.168.178.1) 0.984 ms 1.262 ms 1.494 ms
2 ipbcc21cfe.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de (188.194.28.xxx) 10.596 ms 14.550 ms 11.075 ms
3 ip5886de9e.static.kabel-deutschland.de (88.134.222.158) 11.437 ms 13.353 ms 10.633 ms
4 ip5886bbb5.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de (88.134.187.181) 15.945 ms 11.716 ms 8.490 ms
5 145.254.3.100 (145.254.3.100) 14.419 ms 9.114 ms 15.506 ms
6 145.254.2.185 (145.254.2.185) 15.284 ms 13.198 ms 16.396 ms
7 52.46.166.24 (52.46.166.24) 17.327 ms 10.638 ms 14.211 ms
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aborted after 6 minutes (each).
//tomorrow i can do the tests again with windows as well
>tracert meta.plex.tv
Tracing route to meta.plex.tv.cdn.cloudflare.net [104.18.157.41]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 <1 ms 1 ms 1 ms fritz.box [192.168.178.1]
2 32 ms 20 ms 13 ms ip5f591bfe.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de [95.89.27.254]
3 8 ms 11 ms 9 ms ip5886d836.static.kabel-deutschland.de [88.134.216.54]
4 14 ms 12 ms 10 ms ip5886c1b6.static.kabel-deutschland.de [88.134.193.182]
5 19 ms 13 ms 15 ms ip5886edc6.static.kabel-deutschland.de [88.134.237.198]
6 14 ms 15 ms 8 ms ip5886eda1.static.kabel-deutschland.de [88.134.237.161]
7 25 ms 28 ms 31 ms de-cix-frankfurt.as13335.net [80.81.194.180]
8 14 ms 12 ms 14 ms 104.18.157.41
Trace complete.
>tracert www.plex.tv
Tracing route to www.plex.tv.cdn.cloudflare.net [104.18.156.41]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 <1 ms 1 ms 1 ms fritz.box [192.168.178.1]
2 14 ms 13 ms 9 ms ip5f591bfe.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de [95.89.27.254]
3 7 ms 15 ms 15 ms ip5886d83e.static.kabel-deutschland.de [88.134.216.62]
4 10 ms 4 ms 11 ms ip5886c1bb.static.kabel-deutschland.de [88.134.193.187]
5 13 ms 13 ms 15 ms ip5886ed1e.static.kabel-deutschland.de [88.134.237.30]
6 13 ms 19 ms 13 ms ip5886eda3.static.kabel-deutschland.de [88.134.237.163]
7 32 ms 17 ms 16 ms de-cix-frankfurt.as13335.net [80.81.194.180]
8 25 ms 12 ms 12 ms 104.18.156.41
Trace complete.
>tracert plex.tv
Tracing route to plex.tv [99.81.213.165]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 <1 ms 1 ms 1 ms fritz.box [192.168.178.1]
2 9 ms 15 ms 11 ms ip5f591bfe.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de [95.89.27.254]
3 10 ms 8 ms 8 ms ip5886d836.static.kabel-deutschland.de [88.134.216.54]
4 11 ms 14 ms 10 ms ip5886c1b6.static.kabel-deutschland.de [88.134.193.182]
5 15 ms 16 ms 15 ms ip5886edc6.static.kabel-deutschland.de [88.134.237.198]
6 12 ms 13 ms 19 ms ip5886eda1.static.kabel-deutschland.de [88.134.237.161]
7 * * * Request timed out.
8 14 ms 15 ms 21 ms 54.239.106.246
9 19 ms 16 ms 15 ms 54.239.106.127
10 * * * Request timed out.
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12 35 ms 37 ms 37 ms 52.93.135.72
13 46 ms 38 ms 37 ms 52.93.128.216
14 * * * Request timed out.
15 43 ms 39 ms 36 ms 52.93.6.206
16 36 ms 35 ms 36 ms 52.93.101.57
17 45 ms 41 ms 46 ms 52.93.101.24
18 36 ms 40 ms 37 ms 52.93.7.55
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Trace complete.
Linux traceroute
:~$ traceroute meta.plex.tv
traceroute to meta.plex.tv (104.18.156.41), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
1 fritz.box (192.168.178.1) 0.539 ms 2.129 ms 2.288 ms
2 ip5f591bfe.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de (95.89.27.254) 14.868 ms 22.915 ms 22.963 ms
3 ip5886d83e.static.kabel-deutschland.de (88.134.216.62) 19.474 ms 21.093 ms 22.770 ms
4 ip5886c1bb.static.kabel-deutschland.de (88.134.193.187) 22.764 ms 22.812 ms 22.728 ms
5 ip5886ed1e.static.kabel-deutschland.de (88.134.237.30) 26.173 ms 24.151 ms 24.132 ms
6 ip5886eda3.static.kabel-deutschland.de (88.134.237.163) 26.098 ms 20.803 ms 20.662 ms
7 de-cix-frankfurt.as13335.net (80.81.194.180) 48.383 ms 39.588 ms 35.595 ms
8 104.18.156.41 (104.18.156.41) 22.583 ms 19.620 ms 19.562 ms
:~$ traceroute www.plex.tv
traceroute to www.plex.tv (104.18.157.41), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
1 wpad.fritz.box (192.168.178.1) 0.866 ms 1.882 ms 1.976 ms
2 ip5f591bfe.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de (95.89.27.254) 12.134 ms 20.504 ms 20.534 ms
3 ip5886d836.static.kabel-deutschland.de (88.134.216.54) 17.215 ms 18.934 ms 20.389 ms
4 ip5886c1b6.static.kabel-deutschland.de (88.134.193.182) 22.350 ms 22.322 ms 22.280 ms
5 ip5886edc6.static.kabel-deutschland.de (88.134.237.198) 23.857 ms 23.835 ms 23.807 ms
6 ip5886eda1.static.kabel-deutschland.de (88.134.237.161) 22.172 ms 22.345 ms 20.641 ms
7 de-cix-frankfurt.as13335.net (80.81.194.180) 38.622 ms 29.964 ms 29.797 ms
8 104.18.157.41 (104.18.157.41) 16.599 ms 19.220 ms 15.088 ms
:~$ traceroute plex.tv
traceroute to plex.tv (99.80.231.223), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
1 wpad.fritz.box (192.168.178.1) 0.351 ms 1.935 ms 1.999 ms
2 ip5f591bfe.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de (95.89.27.254) 23.749 ms 23.844 ms 23.882 ms
3 ip5886d83e.static.kabel-deutschland.de (88.134.216.62) 20.206 ms 23.695 ms 23.739 ms
4 ip5886c1bb.static.kabel-deutschland.de (88.134.193.187) 23.734 ms 23.754 ms 23.748 ms
5 ip5886ed1e.static.kabel-deutschland.de (88.134.237.30) 23.743 ms 25.319 ms 27.124 ms
6 ip5886eda3.static.kabel-deutschland.de (88.134.237.163) 28.928 ms 28.132 ms 25.447 ms
7 * * *
8 54.239.106.246 (54.239.106.246) 23.095 ms 54.239.106.244 (54.239.106.244) 25.967 ms 25.903 ms
9 54.239.106.41 (54.239.106.41) 19.270 ms 54.239.106.111 (54.239.106.111) 21.061 ms 54.239.106.63 (54.239.106.63) 21.010 ms
10 * * *
11 52.93.132.86 (52.93.132.86) 47.620 ms 150.222.240.142 (150.222.240.142) 45.991 ms 52.93.135.200 (52.93.135.200) 40.257 ms
12 150.222.240.148 (150.222.240.148) 41.844 ms 41.638 ms 41.652 ms
13 54.239.44.144 (54.239.44.144) 44.723 ms 52.93.128.214 (52.93.128.214) 44.608 ms *
14 * * *
15 * * *
16 * * 52.93.101.17 (52.93.101.17) 43.600 ms
17 52.93.101.24 (52.93.101.24) 38.580 ms 150.222.241.228 (150.222.241.228) 36.828 ms 150.222.240.46 (150.222.240.46) 40.576 ms
18 * * *
19 52.93.6.170 (52.93.6.170) 42.777 ms 52.93.6.208 (52.93.6.208) 36.849 ms 52.93.6.180 (52.93.6.180) 41.956 ms
20 52.93.101.39 (52.93.101.39) 47.450 ms 52.93.101.5 (52.93.101.5) 49.004 ms 52.93.101.37 (52.93.101.37) 49.095 ms
21 * 52.93.101.22 (52.93.101.22) 52.276 ms 52.93.101.4 (52.93.101.4) 50.645 ms
22 52.93.7.145 (52.93.7.145) 52.225 ms 52.93.7.143 (52.93.7.143) 48.974 ms 52.93.7.147 (52.93.7.147) 48.889 ms
23 * * *
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macOS traceroute
~ traceroute meta.plex.tv
traceroute: Warning: meta.plex.tv has multiple addresses; using 104.18.157.41
traceroute to meta.plex.tv.cdn.cloudflare.net (104.18.157.41), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets
1 fritz.box (192.168.178.1) 6.835 ms 2.193 ms 1.948 ms
2 ip5f591bfe.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de (95.89.27.254) 11.408 ms 17.972 ms 9.206 ms
3 ip5886d836.static.kabel-deutschland.de (88.134.216.54) 9.762 ms 13.333 ms 10.111 ms
4 ip5886c1b6.static.kabel-deutschland.de (88.134.193.182) 17.286 ms 23.223 ms 12.159 ms
5 ip5886edc6.static.kabel-deutschland.de (88.134.237.198) 17.349 ms 22.873 ms 21.386 ms
6 ip5886eda1.static.kabel-deutschland.de (88.134.237.161) 16.297 ms 19.415 ms 20.984 ms
7 de-cix-frankfurt.as13335.net (80.81.194.180) 26.208 ms 30.312 ms 42.779 ms
8 104.18.157.41 (104.18.157.41) 16.660 ms 15.675 ms 16.577 ms
~ traceroute www.plex.tv 444ms
traceroute: Warning: www.plex.tv has multiple addresses; using 104.18.156.41
traceroute to www.plex.tv.cdn.cloudflare.net (104.18.156.41), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets
1 fritz.box (192.168.178.1) 3.245 ms 1.588 ms 2.603 ms
2 ip5f591bfe.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de (95.89.27.254) 9.964 ms 10.674 ms 13.072 ms
3 ip5886d83e.static.kabel-deutschland.de (88.134.216.62) 23.218 ms 14.248 ms 11.335 ms
4 ip5886c1bb.static.kabel-deutschland.de (88.134.193.187) 13.755 ms 16.045 ms 13.495 ms
5 ip5886ed1e.static.kabel-deutschland.de (88.134.237.30) 16.623 ms 15.499 ms 14.865 ms
6 ip5886eda3.static.kabel-deutschland.de (88.134.237.163) 17.654 ms 13.594 ms 17.500 ms
7 de-cix-frankfurt.as13335.net (80.81.194.180) 29.304 ms 60.117 ms 21.321 ms
8 104.18.156.41 (104.18.156.41) 15.562 ms 13.974 ms 17.897 ms
~ traceroute plex.tv 428ms
traceroute: Warning: plex.tv has multiple addresses; using 99.80.242.242
traceroute to plex.tv (99.80.242.242), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets
1 fritz.box (192.168.178.1) 328.385 ms 241.616 ms 4.901 ms
2 ip5f591bfe.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de (95.89.27.254) 17.453 ms 12.399 ms 12.125 ms
3 ip5886d83e.static.kabel-deutschland.de (88.134.216.62) 11.739 ms 10.494 ms 4125.419 ms
4 ip5886c1bb.static.kabel-deutschland.de (88.134.193.187) 120.909 ms 16.804 ms 24.903 ms
5 ip5886ed1e.static.kabel-deutschland.de (88.134.237.30) 16.788 ms 13.098 ms 15.939 ms
6 ip5886eda3.static.kabel-deutschland.de (88.134.237.163) 23.106 ms 16.164 ms 16.464 ms
7 * * *
8 54.239.106.246 (54.239.106.246) 21.621 ms
54.239.106.234 (54.239.106.234) 20.218 ms 15.848 ms
9 54.239.106.41 (54.239.106.41) 19.234 ms
54.239.106.87 (54.239.106.87) 15.784 ms
54.239.106.39 (54.239.106.39) 16.151 ms
10 * * *
11 52.93.132.86 (52.93.132.86) 40.267 ms
150.222.240.142 (150.222.240.142) 38.460 ms
150.222.240.140 (150.222.240.140) 42.514 ms
12 150.222.242.43 (150.222.242.43) 46.033 ms
150.222.241.151 (150.222.241.151) 41.885 ms
52.93.135.72 (52.93.135.72) 40.172 ms
13 * * *
14 * * *
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16 * * *
17 150.222.241.226 (150.222.241.226) 45.149 ms
150.222.240.54 (150.222.240.54) 41.419 ms
150.222.241.216 (150.222.241.216) 51.529 ms
18 * 52.93.7.123 (52.93.7.123) 49.336 ms *
19 * 52.93.6.200 (52.93.6.200) 42.654 ms
52.93.6.210 (52.93.6.210) 38.046 ms
20 52.93.101.47 (52.93.101.47) 34.596 ms
52.93.101.27 (52.93.101.27) 42.471 ms
52.93.101.5 (52.93.101.5) 43.839 ms
21 52.93.101.16 (52.93.101.16) 44.413 ms
52.93.101.24 (52.93.101.24) 44.827 ms
52.93.101.40 (52.93.101.40) 44.929 ms
22 52.93.7.111 (52.93.7.111) 44.054 ms
52.93.7.123 (52.93.7.123) 38.685 ms
52.93.7.105 (52.93.7.105) 42.380 ms
23 * * *
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36 *^C⏎
So me and @bwestpha were debugging this weird behavior a bit.
We can confirm that Plex Media Server on Windows (pass version, fresh install) on the same network does not pull any metadata or atleast takes forever…
After enabling the Wireguard VPN for the Windows Machine it pulls every metadata in less than 20 seconds.
We did the same on the former Synology/Xpenology System which is now unraid and it pulls the metadata of 300+ Elements in around about 30 minutes.
@ChuckPa to be honest. We are no network specialists - just some IT enthusiasts :-/.
What we can confirm is, that it works via a wireguard VPN (the VPS to this is located in Frankfurt near the DE-CIX) and it doesn’t work without it.
I can not clearly say this is a vodafone only problem, maybe there is something between vodafone and cloudflare as well - really - I have no clue.
But at least now I’m pretty sure it is nothing on my side (router, host, etc).
If I were a better network debugger, maybe we could get more information out if this - but this is far beyond setting up a wireguard VPN and testing :S
// I sent a short video via PN to you Chuck - showing the current status here on my side. // you are not accepting PNs right now. the video contains some private information I don’t want to share with everybody. Let me know if you are accepting again
Having put all traffic in the VPN proves it’s the ISP. You’ve tunneled all traffic to a location outside their influence before setting it free on the open internet . Doing this and all is fine.
A few challenge points you may wish to ask
Do they have something against using Plex?
Does this same problem exist with other media servers?
What else are they filtering (" have not yet gotten to work right ") ?
I prefer to assume this is accidental rather than deliberate but , what if a deliberate action?
Well, I don’t have any problems with any other service and I wouldn’t know that Vodafone has anything against using Plex.
By the way, a friend of mine has DSL via Telekom and with him the search process takes a long time. But the symptoms are a bit different so I don’t want to mix it up here.