Scanning library takes hours just for a couple of movies/shows

Reap and I spent 3 hours on Facetime working this problem.

We’ve been able to conclude:

  1. It’s the ISP’s new service
  2. Traceroute (tracert on windows) gives different results based on machine from the same home IP address – meaning it’s MAC access based routing / load balancing at the ISP.
  3. Same PMS version on both machines: MacOS works, Synology fails.

We found other information which Reap is going to address with the HelpDesk staff.

When he has resolution, he will post here.

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Alright.
So I called my ISP (Unitymedia/Vodafone Germany) yesterday and told them what we discovered. And by them I mean three different people. The whole story. None of them seemed to get what I was talking about. One of them just replied “So you can’t receive E-Mails?” WHAT?! :rofl: The third person passed my topic to her supervisor which called me today. He knew what I meant and passed the information to the technicians, they will call me back as soon as they figured out what is going wrong here.

Question to @HaNeTheBerG and @preacha
You guys also upgraded to “CableMax 1000” at Unitymedia/Vodafone? And are you living in the area of Frankfurt or in Hessen by chance?

Hi @reap,

I upgraded to Cable Max 1000 and also switched to an AVM 6660 FB. Have the same - or at least a maximum similar) Problem.

So Spot on this calls and Your topic here.

// only difference is: I used xpenology on my nas, which is synology ok an unsupported machine. Tomorrow is my d-day and I will migrate 60 tb to unraid as new OS. So maybe this issue is fixed since it’s - at least partly - tied to synology OS ? :thinking:

Yes, I upgraded from 2play 400 Fly to Cable Max 1000.
I‘m living close to Dortmund.

Yes,I also live near Frankfurt and I also recently upgraded to the Cable Max (500) Vodafone service. (Using a Fritzbox 6660).

@reap

From the sounds of your conversation, “Es musste gefiert worden sein?” :rofl:

All: inside joke. Reap and I were sharing Englisch versus Deutsch and all the things we do and don’t say in the other languages while we were comparing to what one should and shouldn’t do with networking infrastructure lol

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@reap to answer your question in the other thread : living in Munich.

Could share any network results or traces if needed. I have different machines (Windows, mac and from tomorrow unraid/slack) running.

Also open for any remote sessions or other measures to bring some pressure to Vodafone on this.

@bwestpha

Very simple test: traceroute (linux and mac) or tracert to www.plex.tv and plex.tv
set max hops = 100.

It should complete in about 10-12 hops and have IP addresses most of the way.

Failure is going to the end without resolving. (which his Synology does)

Link to now-closed thread as requested by @bwestpha

@ChuckPa thanks for closing. I think information should be gathered here.

Coming to traceroute : Im just printing out my results as they are coming from my terminal (in order of execution):

from my synology NAS:

admin@syno:~$ traceroute -m 100 www.plex.tv
traceroute to www.plex.tv (104.18.156.41), 100 hops max, 60 byte packets
 1  fritz.box (192.168.178.1)  1.096 ms  1.092 ms  1.089 ms
 2  ipbcc21cfe.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de (188.194.28.xxx)  13.176 ms  19.112 ms  19.207 ms
 3  ip5886de86.static.kabel-deutschland.de (88.134.222.134)  24.235 ms  24.237 ms  24.232 ms
 4  ip5886bbb0.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de (88.134.187.176)  21.003 ms  20.965 ms  20.995 ms
 5  145.254.3.102 (145.254.3.102)  23.191 ms  23.184 ms  23.177 ms
 6  145.254.2.201 (145.254.2.201)  23.135 ms  19.127 ms  19.103 ms
 7  de-cix-munich.as13335.net (80.81.202.9)  19.109 ms  13.968 ms  12.708 ms
 8  104.18.156.41 (104.18.156.41)  17.755 ms  15.911 ms  17.134 ms
admin@syno:~$ traceroute -m 100 www.plex.tv
traceroute to www.plex.tv (104.18.156.41), 100 hops max, 60 byte packets
 1  fritz.box (192.168.178.1)  0.928 ms  0.922 ms  0.916 ms
 2  ipbcc21cfe.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de (188.194.28.xxx)  26.072 ms  29.661 ms  29.660 ms
 3  ip5886de86.static.kabel-deutschland.de (88.134.222.134)  17.505 ms  19.274 ms  23.165 ms
 4  ip5886bbb0.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de (88.134.187.176)  23.167 ms  23.164 ms  23.159 ms
 5  145.254.3.102 (145.254.3.102)  23.153 ms  23.149 ms  23.139 ms
 6  145.254.2.201 (145.254.2.201)  23.140 ms  19.495 ms  19.479 ms
 7  de-cix-munich.as13335.net (80.81.202.9)  19.477 ms  14.707 ms  16.098 ms
 8  104.18.156.41 (104.18.156.41)  17.095 ms  18.586 ms  17.071 ms
admin@syno:~$ traceroute -m 100 plex.tv
traceroute to plex.tv (99.80.231.223), 100 hops max, 60 byte packets
 1  fritz.box (192.168.178.1)  1.246 ms  1.243 ms  1.238 ms
 2  ipbcc21cfe.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de (188.194.28.xxx)  12.292 ms  19.467 ms  22.886 ms
 3  ip5886de86.static.kabel-deutschland.de (88.134.222.134)  24.357 ms  24.358 ms  24.354 ms
 4  ip5886bbb0.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de (88.134.187.176)  24.348 ms  24.344 ms  24.333 ms
 5  145.254.3.102 (145.254.3.102)  26.252 ms  26.249 ms  26.246 ms
 6  145.254.2.201 (145.254.2.201)  26.236 ms  20.312 ms  20.324 ms
 7  52.46.166.24 (52.46.166.24)  22.212 ms  18.900 ms  14.311 ms
 8  52.93.41.132 (52.93.41.132)  12.290 ms  22.590 ms  22.574 ms
 9  52.93.41.77 (52.93.41.77)  24.092 ms 52.93.41.95 (52.93.41.95)  19.307 ms 52.93.41.113 (52.93.41.113)  22.555 ms
10  52.93.128.141 (52.93.128.141)  52.193 ms 54.239.42.24 (54.239.42.24)  45.807 ms 52.93.128.141 (52.93.128.141)  52.065 ms
11  150.222.241.24 (150.222.241.24)  51.923 ms 52.93.134.82 (52.93.134.82)  51.906 ms 150.222.242.186 (150.222.242.186)  45.776 ms
12  52.93.134.168 (52.93.134.168)  48.620 ms 150.222.242.43 (150.222.242.43)  47.017 ms 150.222.240.172 (150.222.240.172)  41.939 ms
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17  150.222.240.52 (150.222.240.52)  50.343 ms 150.222.240.50 (150.222.240.50)  48.801 ms 150.222.241.210 (150.222.241.210)  50.333 ms
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20  52.93.101.3 (52.93.101.3)  44.264 ms 52.93.101.31 (52.93.101.31)  43.499 ms 52.93.101.41 (52.93.101.41)  40.009 ms
21  52.93.101.0 (52.93.101.0)  43.989 ms 52.93.101.40 (52.93.101.40)  44.066 ms 52.93.101.34 (52.93.101.34)  44.119 ms
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admin@syno:~$ traceroute -m 100 plex.tv
traceroute to plex.tv (99.81.213.165), 100 hops max, 60 byte packets
 1  fritz.box (192.168.178.1)  1.078 ms  1.070 ms  1.120 ms
 2  ipbcc21cfe.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de (188.194.28.xxx)  15.027 ms  19.269 ms  20.959 ms
 3  ip5886de9e.static.kabel-deutschland.de (88.134.222.158)  22.521 ms  22.521 ms  22.517 ms
 4  ip5886bbb5.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de (88.134.187.181)  22.529 ms  22.512 ms  22.510 ms
 5  145.254.3.100 (145.254.3.100)  22.516 ms  22.578 ms  22.575 ms
 6  145.254.2.185 (145.254.2.185)  22.513 ms  18.494 ms  18.535 ms
 7  52.46.166.24 (52.46.166.24)  18.521 ms  11.241 ms  15.684 ms
 8  52.93.41.84 (52.93.41.84)  17.438 ms 52.93.41.116 (52.93.41.116)  12.062 ms 52.93.41.132 (52.93.41.132)  20.758 ms
 9  52.93.41.127 (52.93.41.127)  20.752 ms 52.93.41.79 (52.93.41.79)  22.225 ms 52.93.41.129 (52.93.41.129)  19.059 ms
10  52.93.128.141 (52.93.128.141)  50.562 ms 54.239.43.184 (54.239.43.184)  47.522 ms 52.93.128.141 (52.93.128.141)  47.843 ms
11  150.222.242.186 (150.222.242.186)  49.475 ms 150.222.240.234 (150.222.240.234)  46.494 ms 150.222.242.186 (150.222.242.186)  46.489 ms
12  52.93.133.232 (52.93.133.232)  50.835 ms 150.222.241.159 (150.222.241.159)  54.356 ms  52.729 ms
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admin@syno:~$

from my macbook:

   ~  traceroute -m 100 www.plex.tv                       ✔  23:49:59 
❯ traceroute -m 100 www.plex.tv
traceroute: Warning: www.plex.tv has multiple addresses; using 104.18.156.41
traceroute to www.plex.tv.cdn.cloudflare.net (104.18.156.41), 100 hops max, 52 byte packets
 1  fritz.box (192.168.178.1)  0.645 ms  1.248 ms  1.656 ms
 2  ipbcc21cfe.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de (188.194.28.xxx)  15.211 ms  13.909 ms  15.555 ms
 3  ip5886de86.static.kabel-deutschland.de (88.134.222.134)  8.122 ms  8.315 ms  13.061 ms
 4  ip5886bbb0.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de (88.134.187.176)  15.969 ms  9.364 ms  10.589 ms
 5  145.254.3.102 (145.254.3.102)  10.046 ms  10.556 ms  11.187 ms
 6  145.254.2.201 (145.254.2.201)  12.813 ms  10.357 ms  10.304 ms
 7  de-cix-munich.as13335.net (80.81.202.9)  12.278 ms  38.625 ms  11.549 ms
 8  104.18.156.41 (104.18.156.41)  13.175 ms  9.536 ms  13.706 ms
❯ traceroute -m 100 plex.tv
traceroute: Warning: plex.tv has multiple addresses; using 99.80.231.223
traceroute to plex.tv (99.80.231.223), 100 hops max, 52 byte packets
 1  fritz.box (192.168.178.1)  1.277 ms  1.311 ms  1.539 ms
 2  ipbcc21cfe.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de (188.194.28.xxx)  11.071 ms  8.246 ms  11.810 ms
 3  ip5886de86.static.kabel-deutschland.de (88.134.222.134)  9.610 ms  10.266 ms  7.512 ms
 4  ip5886bbb0.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de (88.134.187.176)  12.528 ms  10.518 ms  12.583 ms
 5  145.254.3.102 (145.254.3.102)  12.134 ms  10.876 ms  10.334 ms
 6  145.254.2.201 (145.254.2.201)  12.326 ms  10.337 ms  12.040 ms
 7  52.46.166.24 (52.46.166.24)  13.445 ms  10.520 ms  10.375 ms
 8  52.93.41.36 (52.93.41.36)  26.068 ms
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12  150.222.242.43 (150.222.242.43)  47.169 ms  41.759 ms
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❯ traceroute -m 100 plex.tv
traceroute: Warning: plex.tv has multiple addresses; using 99.81.213.165
traceroute to plex.tv (99.81.213.165), 100 hops max, 52 byte packets
 1  fritz.box (192.168.178.1)  0.984 ms  1.262 ms  1.494 ms
 2  ipbcc21cfe.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de (188.194.28.xxx)  10.596 ms  14.550 ms  11.075 ms
 3  ip5886de9e.static.kabel-deutschland.de (88.134.222.158)  11.437 ms  13.353 ms  10.633 ms
 4  ip5886bbb5.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de (88.134.187.181)  15.945 ms  11.716 ms  8.490 ms
 5  145.254.3.100 (145.254.3.100)  14.419 ms  9.114 ms  15.506 ms
 6  145.254.2.185 (145.254.2.185)  15.284 ms  13.198 ms  16.396 ms
 7  52.46.166.24 (52.46.166.24)  17.327 ms  10.638 ms  14.211 ms
 8  52.93.41.36 (52.93.41.36)  25.199 ms  19.775 ms
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10  52.93.128.141 (52.93.128.141)  42.847 ms  44.189 ms
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aborted after 6 minutes (each).

//tomorrow i can do the tests again with windows as well

another reference point we can add. meta.plex.tv (where metadata comes from)
and the obvious TheTVDB, IMDB, TMDB routes.

Yes, also upgraded to cable max and bought a Fritzbox 6591. Living in the near of Heilbronn.

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If it helps:

Windows tracert
>tracert meta.plex.tv

Tracing route to meta.plex.tv.cdn.cloudflare.net [104.18.157.41]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    <1 ms     1 ms     1 ms  fritz.box [192.168.178.1]
  2    32 ms    20 ms    13 ms  ip5f591bfe.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de [95.89.27.254]
  3     8 ms    11 ms     9 ms  ip5886d836.static.kabel-deutschland.de [88.134.216.54]
  4    14 ms    12 ms    10 ms  ip5886c1b6.static.kabel-deutschland.de [88.134.193.182]
  5    19 ms    13 ms    15 ms  ip5886edc6.static.kabel-deutschland.de [88.134.237.198]
  6    14 ms    15 ms     8 ms  ip5886eda1.static.kabel-deutschland.de [88.134.237.161]
  7    25 ms    28 ms    31 ms  de-cix-frankfurt.as13335.net [80.81.194.180]
  8    14 ms    12 ms    14 ms  104.18.157.41

Trace complete.

>tracert www.plex.tv

Tracing route to www.plex.tv.cdn.cloudflare.net [104.18.156.41]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    <1 ms     1 ms     1 ms  fritz.box [192.168.178.1]
  2    14 ms    13 ms     9 ms  ip5f591bfe.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de [95.89.27.254]
  3     7 ms    15 ms    15 ms  ip5886d83e.static.kabel-deutschland.de [88.134.216.62]
  4    10 ms     4 ms    11 ms  ip5886c1bb.static.kabel-deutschland.de [88.134.193.187]
  5    13 ms    13 ms    15 ms  ip5886ed1e.static.kabel-deutschland.de [88.134.237.30]
  6    13 ms    19 ms    13 ms  ip5886eda3.static.kabel-deutschland.de [88.134.237.163]
  7    32 ms    17 ms    16 ms  de-cix-frankfurt.as13335.net [80.81.194.180]
  8    25 ms    12 ms    12 ms  104.18.156.41

Trace complete.

>tracert plex.tv

Tracing route to plex.tv [99.81.213.165]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    <1 ms     1 ms     1 ms  fritz.box [192.168.178.1]
  2     9 ms    15 ms    11 ms  ip5f591bfe.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de [95.89.27.254]
  3    10 ms     8 ms     8 ms  ip5886d836.static.kabel-deutschland.de [88.134.216.54]
  4    11 ms    14 ms    10 ms  ip5886c1b6.static.kabel-deutschland.de [88.134.193.182]
  5    15 ms    16 ms    15 ms  ip5886edc6.static.kabel-deutschland.de [88.134.237.198]
  6    12 ms    13 ms    19 ms  ip5886eda1.static.kabel-deutschland.de [88.134.237.161]
  7     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  8    14 ms    15 ms    21 ms  54.239.106.246
  9    19 ms    16 ms    15 ms  54.239.106.127
 10     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 11    37 ms    44 ms    38 ms  52.93.133.214
 12    35 ms    37 ms    37 ms  52.93.135.72
 13    46 ms    38 ms    37 ms  52.93.128.216
 14     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 15    43 ms    39 ms    36 ms  52.93.6.206
 16    36 ms    35 ms    36 ms  52.93.101.57
 17    45 ms    41 ms    46 ms  52.93.101.24
 18    36 ms    40 ms    37 ms  52.93.7.55
 19     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 20     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 21     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 22     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 23     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 24     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 25     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 26     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 27     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 28     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 29     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 30     *        *        *     Request timed out.

Trace complete.
Linux traceroute
:~$ traceroute meta.plex.tv
traceroute to meta.plex.tv (104.18.156.41), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
 1  fritz.box (192.168.178.1)  0.539 ms  2.129 ms  2.288 ms
 2  ip5f591bfe.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de (95.89.27.254)  14.868 ms  22.915 ms  22.963 ms
 3  ip5886d83e.static.kabel-deutschland.de (88.134.216.62)  19.474 ms  21.093 ms  22.770 ms
 4  ip5886c1bb.static.kabel-deutschland.de (88.134.193.187)  22.764 ms  22.812 ms  22.728 ms
 5  ip5886ed1e.static.kabel-deutschland.de (88.134.237.30)  26.173 ms  24.151 ms  24.132 ms
 6  ip5886eda3.static.kabel-deutschland.de (88.134.237.163)  26.098 ms  20.803 ms  20.662 ms
 7  de-cix-frankfurt.as13335.net (80.81.194.180)  48.383 ms  39.588 ms  35.595 ms
 8  104.18.156.41 (104.18.156.41)  22.583 ms  19.620 ms  19.562 ms

:~$ traceroute www.plex.tv
traceroute to www.plex.tv (104.18.157.41), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
 1  wpad.fritz.box (192.168.178.1)  0.866 ms  1.882 ms  1.976 ms
 2  ip5f591bfe.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de (95.89.27.254)  12.134 ms  20.504 ms  20.534 ms
 3  ip5886d836.static.kabel-deutschland.de (88.134.216.54)  17.215 ms  18.934 ms  20.389 ms
 4  ip5886c1b6.static.kabel-deutschland.de (88.134.193.182)  22.350 ms  22.322 ms  22.280 ms
 5  ip5886edc6.static.kabel-deutschland.de (88.134.237.198)  23.857 ms  23.835 ms  23.807 ms
 6  ip5886eda1.static.kabel-deutschland.de (88.134.237.161)  22.172 ms  22.345 ms  20.641 ms
 7  de-cix-frankfurt.as13335.net (80.81.194.180)  38.622 ms  29.964 ms  29.797 ms
 8  104.18.157.41 (104.18.157.41)  16.599 ms  19.220 ms  15.088 ms

:~$ traceroute plex.tv
traceroute to plex.tv (99.80.231.223), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
 1  wpad.fritz.box (192.168.178.1)  0.351 ms  1.935 ms  1.999 ms
 2  ip5f591bfe.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de (95.89.27.254)  23.749 ms  23.844 ms  23.882 ms
 3  ip5886d83e.static.kabel-deutschland.de (88.134.216.62)  20.206 ms  23.695 ms  23.739 ms
 4  ip5886c1bb.static.kabel-deutschland.de (88.134.193.187)  23.734 ms  23.754 ms  23.748 ms
 5  ip5886ed1e.static.kabel-deutschland.de (88.134.237.30)  23.743 ms  25.319 ms  27.124 ms
 6  ip5886eda3.static.kabel-deutschland.de (88.134.237.163)  28.928 ms  28.132 ms  25.447 ms
 7  * * *
 8  54.239.106.246 (54.239.106.246)  23.095 ms 54.239.106.244 (54.239.106.244)  25.967 ms  25.903 ms
 9  54.239.106.41 (54.239.106.41)  19.270 ms 54.239.106.111 (54.239.106.111)  21.061 ms 54.239.106.63 (54.239.106.63)  21.010 ms
10  * * *
11  52.93.132.86 (52.93.132.86)  47.620 ms 150.222.240.142 (150.222.240.142)  45.991 ms 52.93.135.200 (52.93.135.200)  40.257 ms
12  150.222.240.148 (150.222.240.148)  41.844 ms  41.638 ms  41.652 ms
13  54.239.44.144 (54.239.44.144)  44.723 ms 52.93.128.214 (52.93.128.214)  44.608 ms *
14  * * *
15  * * *
16  * * 52.93.101.17 (52.93.101.17)  43.600 ms
17  52.93.101.24 (52.93.101.24)  38.580 ms 150.222.241.228 (150.222.241.228)  36.828 ms 150.222.240.46 (150.222.240.46)  40.576 ms
18  * * *
19  52.93.6.170 (52.93.6.170)  42.777 ms 52.93.6.208 (52.93.6.208)  36.849 ms 52.93.6.180 (52.93.6.180)  41.956 ms
20  52.93.101.39 (52.93.101.39)  47.450 ms 52.93.101.5 (52.93.101.5)  49.004 ms 52.93.101.37 (52.93.101.37)  49.095 ms
21  * 52.93.101.22 (52.93.101.22)  52.276 ms 52.93.101.4 (52.93.101.4)  50.645 ms
22  52.93.7.145 (52.93.7.145)  52.225 ms 52.93.7.143 (52.93.7.143)  48.974 ms 52.93.7.147 (52.93.7.147)  48.889 ms
23  * * *
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25  * * *
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27  * * *
28  * * *
29  * * *
30  * * *
macOS traceroute
 ~  traceroute meta.plex.tv
traceroute: Warning: meta.plex.tv has multiple addresses; using 104.18.157.41
traceroute to meta.plex.tv.cdn.cloudflare.net (104.18.157.41), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets
 1  fritz.box (192.168.178.1)  6.835 ms  2.193 ms  1.948 ms
 2  ip5f591bfe.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de (95.89.27.254)  11.408 ms  17.972 ms  9.206 ms
 3  ip5886d836.static.kabel-deutschland.de (88.134.216.54)  9.762 ms  13.333 ms  10.111 ms
 4  ip5886c1b6.static.kabel-deutschland.de (88.134.193.182)  17.286 ms  23.223 ms  12.159 ms
 5  ip5886edc6.static.kabel-deutschland.de (88.134.237.198)  17.349 ms  22.873 ms  21.386 ms
 6  ip5886eda1.static.kabel-deutschland.de (88.134.237.161)  16.297 ms  19.415 ms  20.984 ms
 7  de-cix-frankfurt.as13335.net (80.81.194.180)  26.208 ms  30.312 ms  42.779 ms
 8  104.18.157.41 (104.18.157.41)  16.660 ms  15.675 ms  16.577 ms

 ~  traceroute www.plex.tv                                                                              444ms
traceroute: Warning: www.plex.tv has multiple addresses; using 104.18.156.41
traceroute to www.plex.tv.cdn.cloudflare.net (104.18.156.41), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets
 1  fritz.box (192.168.178.1)  3.245 ms  1.588 ms  2.603 ms
 2  ip5f591bfe.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de (95.89.27.254)  9.964 ms  10.674 ms  13.072 ms
 3  ip5886d83e.static.kabel-deutschland.de (88.134.216.62)  23.218 ms  14.248 ms  11.335 ms
 4  ip5886c1bb.static.kabel-deutschland.de (88.134.193.187)  13.755 ms  16.045 ms  13.495 ms
 5  ip5886ed1e.static.kabel-deutschland.de (88.134.237.30)  16.623 ms  15.499 ms  14.865 ms
 6  ip5886eda3.static.kabel-deutschland.de (88.134.237.163)  17.654 ms  13.594 ms  17.500 ms
 7  de-cix-frankfurt.as13335.net (80.81.194.180)  29.304 ms  60.117 ms  21.321 ms
 8  104.18.156.41 (104.18.156.41)  15.562 ms  13.974 ms  17.897 ms

 ~  traceroute plex.tv                                                                                  428ms
traceroute: Warning: plex.tv has multiple addresses; using 99.80.242.242
traceroute to plex.tv (99.80.242.242), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets
 1  fritz.box (192.168.178.1)  328.385 ms  241.616 ms  4.901 ms
 2  ip5f591bfe.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de (95.89.27.254)  17.453 ms  12.399 ms  12.125 ms
 3  ip5886d83e.static.kabel-deutschland.de (88.134.216.62)  11.739 ms  10.494 ms  4125.419 ms
 4  ip5886c1bb.static.kabel-deutschland.de (88.134.193.187)  120.909 ms  16.804 ms  24.903 ms
 5  ip5886ed1e.static.kabel-deutschland.de (88.134.237.30)  16.788 ms  13.098 ms  15.939 ms
 6  ip5886eda3.static.kabel-deutschland.de (88.134.237.163)  23.106 ms  16.164 ms  16.464 ms
 7  * * *
 8  54.239.106.246 (54.239.106.246)  21.621 ms
    54.239.106.234 (54.239.106.234)  20.218 ms  15.848 ms
 9  54.239.106.41 (54.239.106.41)  19.234 ms
    54.239.106.87 (54.239.106.87)  15.784 ms
    54.239.106.39 (54.239.106.39)  16.151 ms
10  * * *
11  52.93.132.86 (52.93.132.86)  40.267 ms
    150.222.240.142 (150.222.240.142)  38.460 ms
    150.222.240.140 (150.222.240.140)  42.514 ms
12  150.222.242.43 (150.222.242.43)  46.033 ms
    150.222.241.151 (150.222.241.151)  41.885 ms
    52.93.135.72 (52.93.135.72)  40.172 ms
13  * * *
14  * * *
15  * * *
16  * * *
17  150.222.241.226 (150.222.241.226)  45.149 ms
    150.222.240.54 (150.222.240.54)  41.419 ms
    150.222.241.216 (150.222.241.216)  51.529 ms
18  * 52.93.7.123 (52.93.7.123)  49.336 ms *
19  * 52.93.6.200 (52.93.6.200)  42.654 ms
    52.93.6.210 (52.93.6.210)  38.046 ms
20  52.93.101.47 (52.93.101.47)  34.596 ms
    52.93.101.27 (52.93.101.27)  42.471 ms
    52.93.101.5 (52.93.101.5)  43.839 ms
21  52.93.101.16 (52.93.101.16)  44.413 ms
    52.93.101.24 (52.93.101.24)  44.827 ms
    52.93.101.40 (52.93.101.40)  44.929 ms
22  52.93.7.111 (52.93.7.111)  44.054 ms
    52.93.7.123 (52.93.7.123)  38.685 ms
    52.93.7.105 (52.93.7.105)  42.380 ms
23  * * *
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36  *^C⏎

I have the same Problem. Upgrade to Cable Max (Unitymedia/Vodafone) with a FritzBox 6591. I also live near Heilbronn in southern Germany.

Upgrade to Cable Max (Unitymedia/Vodafone) with a FritzBox 6591 too.

I have deleted all folder from my sonology und did a clean Install, but it didnt work.

So me and @bwestpha were debugging this weird behavior a bit.

We can confirm that Plex Media Server on Windows (pass version, fresh install) on the same network does not pull any metadata or atleast takes forever…

After enabling the Wireguard VPN for the Windows Machine it pulls every metadata in less than 20 seconds.

We did the same on the former Synology/Xpenology System which is now unraid and it pulls the metadata of 300+ Elements in around about 30 minutes.

@reap any news from Vodafone/Technical Service?

How can we escalate this problem at vodafone?
Calling their Hotline is wasted time.

@jwestphal

To confirm: Once you’re free of their routing via the VPN, everything is back to normal ?

@ChuckPa to be honest. We are no network specialists - just some IT enthusiasts :-/.
What we can confirm is, that it works via a wireguard VPN (the VPS to this is located in Frankfurt near the DE-CIX) and it doesn’t work without it.
I can not clearly say this is a vodafone only problem, maybe there is something between vodafone and cloudflare as well - really - I have no clue.

But at least now I’m pretty sure it is nothing on my side (router, host, etc).

If I were a better network debugger, maybe we could get more information out if this - but this is far beyond setting up a wireguard VPN and testing :S

// I sent a short video via PN to you Chuck - showing the current status here on my side. // you are not accepting PNs right now. the video contains some private information I don’t want to share with everybody. Let me know if you are accepting again :slight_smile:

@bwestpha

Having put all traffic in the VPN proves it’s the ISP. You’ve tunneled all traffic to a location outside their influence before setting it free on the open internet . Doing this and all is fine.

A few challenge points you may wish to ask

  1. Do they have something against using Plex?
  2. Does this same problem exist with other media servers?
  3. What else are they filtering (" have not yet gotten to work right ") ?

I prefer to assume this is accidental rather than deliberate but , what if a deliberate action?

Well, I don’t have any problems with any other service and I wouldn’t know that Vodafone has anything against using Plex.

By the way, a friend of mine has DSL via Telekom and with him the search process takes a long time. But the symptoms are a bit different so I don’t want to mix it up here.