New Plex Guide Very Poor in UK

not sure where you are, but here (UK) all that is in the OTA feed, including if it’s a repeat, part of a series, etc etc etc… without that the cheap DVR’s would not work either.

I’m sure there are somebody on this thread that wrote the code/scripts to do this?

if you wouldn’t mind, can you detail that solution please? (so that us muppets can replicate it!)

I see, here in Germany you don’t get that.

Also UK here. Yes, there is a script that works but you only get 24hrs data off an HDHomerun, so not a lot of use. I believe other manufacturers give longer time periods.

Sure.
I learned to do it myself, so it’ll be written by a muppet for a muppet :slight_smile:

Hi,

Might be being dumb here, but why only 24 hours? they transmit 2 weeks OTA so what does the Homerun do with it?

that said, would that be a massive problem so long as series link works? ie. as soon as the days schedule picks up, Plex DVR can use it?

…that might not be OTA, but what HDHomerun provides - not entirely sure, to be honest.

I must say that’s my impression too. Comments on blogs about new features that mention this are never approved (have tried to politely make that point a few times now). I note Adobe’s recent blog post recognising that issue for their software and committing more to fixing bugs and stability than new features. Unfortunately I’ve already paid my lifetime fee for Plex so they’ve got the cash but I really wish they would consider this change in course, it would be greatly valued by most members. @elan

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I wrote from scratch software do to all my DVR stuff because Plex was hopeless. This works using the 7 day OTA data we get in the UK on Freeview so there is episode information. Better, we have real identifiers for series linking programs so there is no need for “New” flags. Better still, I’ve written it to use the accurate recording signals we get in the UK so no missed starts or ends, it just starts bang on time. Given all the extended news we’ve had recently and the schedule drifting this has worked spot on.

Also Plex is very resource hungry. On the same PC, my software will refresh the entire guide in around 5 minutes using about 1% CPU, Plex takes considerably longer using 30% to 45% CPU. I just don’t understand how or why it performs so poorly. Also works as a real Windows Service, unlike Plex!

If anyone is interested in trying it hit me up in messages and I will send it, although as I’m only a team of one and this was just for me it only supports Windows and HDHomeRun Freeview tuners in the UK.

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To be honest I’ve almost given up. I posted an issue in July 2019: Plex no longer recording full movies (UK) and there still hasn’t been a fix implemented.

I’ve pretty much resigned myself to forever manually extending the time of my recordings even though this worked great before they switched epg providers last year. It’s a royal pain in the neck. Their new EPG provider must be extremely slow in dealing with reported issues or just incapable of fixing them.

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Wow, sounds good

So, it can be done? so much for:

Yep. Wish this was a thing that Plex had.

Yes it can be done. The OTA Freeview data is available for up to 7 days and is broadcast continuously to be picked up and used by PVRs or TVs.

HDHomeRun I think charge for their DVR software and then ‘unlock’ access to more days as part of that charge. They may be using their own EPG data supplier and paying them for that data and so a subscriber might get access to more info such as actor bio’s and reviews, I’m not sure as not used it. Either way 7 day EPG data is available free on the Freeview platform, along with all the codes needed to support series linking and accurate recording.

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Ah, OK, that makes more sence, irrelevant for Plex or any other application using a HomeRun.

What unit are you using (I assume not HDHomerun)?

Using HDHomeRun Quatro.

Cool. Can you share your script with us? …totally understand if you don’t want to do that of course.

It isn’t just a script unfortunately, it is a program (EXE) that fires up the tuner and parses all the EIT (Event Information Tables) sent over Freeview, does CRC checks etc, decodes the data and puts into a database which is then used to show a guide over HTML. I suppose it wouldn’t be that difficult to make it output the EPG guide as an XML file if that is what you are thinking? There are similar programs already that do that though (EPG Centre is one).

Hi,

yes, was thinking of a straight forward XML output.

I cannot find “EPG Centre” online.

Sorry, it is EPG Collector, available here https://sourceforge.net/projects/epgcollector/ I’ve tried and it works well, a bit complicated to set up at first glance given it is designed to work all over the world with any TV system, but does output a EPG as XML with Freeview UK.

Hope that helps.

agh, yes - I know that one, but I am on a Mac :frowning: